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>> i have no doubt because i have some inside information. and the thing is, it started out with "the art of the deal", the book, and it was, you know, a p.r. guys idea. he said, donald, what you need to do is well make sort of a rumor that youre running for president. and donald is like, oh. so all much a sudden he was being interviewed. the book goes right to number one. when he had his second book that came out, thats when he decided to start the rumor that he was going to run for president a...

Good about himself and hes going to roll and open up to me. >> when you see him now in the white house as president what do you see? >> well, you know -- >> give your history with him and how you know him. >> its unbelievable to me. ive documented my thoughts how this whole candidacy came about. it was a publicity stunt. >> you have no doubt about that. >> i have no doubt because i have some inside information and the thing is that it started out with the art of the deal, the book, and it was a ...