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I think the desire will be to have someone if -- we need someone elected who is a centrist. frankly having a democrat who is a centrist wouldnt be all bad because it is it perpetuate a logjam which i think frankly if youre in favor of small government a democratic president would be a good thing. >> who is that? >> well, it looks like right now hillary clinton or maybe john kerry steps into the breach. i dont see either one of them being elected. i think hillary gets elected personally. >> i don...