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Dhs secretary and now lead this. i think he clearly said and it seemed pretty believable to me, this is not the best job. he said its the most important job. its a tough job. and erin, i think pretty much anyone whos had that job could not disagree that this is a very tough job to be the chief of staff for any president. certainly this president. >> yes, although maybe this presidential wa president wants to maier more its the best chief of staff he ever had. dana bash is with me. along with and...