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>> all right, good evening from new york, im chris hayes. we are watching right now debate wrap up at this hour, as the house gets ready to vote on the crucial debt ceiling deal. thats the speaker of the house speaking right there. earlier today, the republican proposal passed a key procedural vote, but it only passed with the help from democrats. it did not have the votes to pass it on their own, after 29 republicans defected. as of now, the bill is being discussed on the floor. its e...

Gains for coupon clipping as you do for working in a factory. progressives would love to have that today. and you have tons of loopholes. and so you can give these things if you try and have got grown-ups working. unfortunately, the tea party makes it -- i agree. this is not sim mettic here. the tea party makes it very hard for obama to find -- its like israel, very hard to find a good negotiating party across the border. and in this characters across the aisle who will stand up to a reasonable ...

Into ever more personal aspect s of our lives like ouri health care. this was a big opportunity. its sad we missed it. we have to take advantage of opportunities as the law is implemented and harms folks well. eel try to protect the people. >> good to see you both both. i look forward to this continuing in 90 days from now. well are boot and see where it goes. thats the thing about kicking the can down the road. now from the house side with bring in michele bachmann, how are you guys? >> good th...

Way back from the so-called haster rule that says you have to have a majority of the vote. >> did you hear from that -- >> yes. >> john alter said you have to do this. >> otherwise she are slitting their throats long-term. >> have you it play chris, longer term. >> i dont think it will happen. thank you. dont forget to check out the "hardball" blog. there is much more on this story including by "hardball" reporter, benji. talking about how latinos learn to love their own base. find it at tv.msnb...

>> theres fear if the house pass as security bill the senate and house bill goes to conference. out of conference comes a bill more closely aligned with the senate. >> oh, yes. >> speaker boehner would be over if he didnt enforce the haster rule. designee wont bring a bill to a vote unless a majority of republicans vote on. it >> they dont have to do it. >> its like these endless repeals of obama care. god bless them but we get the point. you want to repeal obama care. nothing will happen. nothi...

>> theres fear if the house pass as security bill the senate and house bill goes to conference. out of conference comes a bill more closely aligned with the senate. >> oh, yes. >> speaker boehner would be over if he didnt enforce the haster rule. designee wont bring a bill to a vote unless a majority of republicans vote on. it >> they dont have to do it. >> its like these endless repeals of obama care. god bless them but we get the point. you want to repeal obama care. nothing will happen. nothi...

Whereas conservative republicans in rural states and rural districts they may be a bit more lost cause including democrats. >> some of the news this week was led by paul brown in georgia, about 45, 47 conservative republicans sent a letter to john boehner and basically said you better obey the haster rule. you need a majority of a majority to put anything on the floor of the house. if the majority of the republicans dont want something john boehner shouldnt do it. its a dysfunction of washington...

Correct, chad? >> yeah, yeah. i would be careful about reading too much into the house of representatives voting on it today. they are to sort of see where their members are. you know, there is something that john boehner and the house republican leadership has operated under a line, the haster rule, they would never bring a piece of legislation to the floor that did not have a majority of the majority party. now, we would think that the democrats would be with the blessing of the president and ...

Support in the country and polling despite intense criticism. on the other hand, chris, theres also substantial and equal majority support for the idea there has to be a comprehensive solution to immigration that includes a guest worker program and includes some kind of pathway to citizenship for people who are here illegally rather than the idea of mass deportation. that also polls at around 60% or above and has for a number of years. >> but one is real. the arizona law exists, this notion of a...

That were going to get this done. they recognize that they cannot go into next year with this hanging over their head. this could be more damaging than most and they want to get it behind them. >> you know, michael, whats interesting is the tact now seems to be, you dont have to push your congress member for a path to legalization or amnesty or citizenship, just unch them to urge boehner to break the haster rule. that seems doable given that hes broken it several times. >> hes said hes not going...