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Job, the same job, there is this gap. why is that? is it discrimination, play a role there? does the fact that women maybe have to drop out for a time and so they lose some job time in the middle? does that -- does that play a role there? there are some labor economists, ali, who have told us that women dont negotiate for raises the same way that men do, thats a small little -- thats a few cents there. trying to figure out how you come up with those cents and how you try to narrow that gap. one ...