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Are infected. molly, prime minister boris johnson resisted lockdowns, and a headline in "the new york times" says europeans are starting to talk about learning to live with rather than defeating covid. is that what youre hearing? >> reporter: arent we all, in some ways, lets get on with it. but definitely that headline tracks with people were talking to across the continent in the uk and what prime minister boris johnson is trying to make his country believe. hes been very strong, look, get the ...