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Environment, wouldnt spending more and the presidents plan make inflation worse? >> it boggles the mind. economics 101 and 201 says if you keep priming the pump, inflation keeps going higher. we are not at the point where its completely out of control. but if they keep going this route, we are may end up that way. and all this talk about interest ratings staying down at 1% or 2%, we may see them at 5%. and then all heck breaks loose in the economy. i have to add the other component. to think bus...

White house. i dont know if we know what the ramifications of a shutdown would be or will be if there is one. >> we dont. i think there are some fairly clear guidelines that he has to follow. i just wish he would get involved. this is a -- this is really a crisis. >> greta: if hes not involved, why do you think hes not involved? >> because i believe he would like the government to shutdown, because it is the only way he can turn this back in his favor. the american people made a clear statement ...

The ramifications of a shutdown would be or will be if there is one. >> we dont. i think there are some fairly clear guidelines that he has to follow. i just wish he would get involved. this is a -- this is really a crisis. >> greta: if hes not involved, why do you think hes not involved? >> because i believe he would like the government to shutdown, because it is the only way he can turn this back in his favor. the american people made a clear statement in november. thats why im sitting here ta...