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Of them in term of policy. >> so i guess the question is there an approach that the justice department can take to try and overcome these potential barriers from the court thats you outlined? >> so im going to defer to my legal scholars over down the road. but i think the grassroots piece is one i would like to highlight. this is something where there has been a lot of conversation. because of the way that the law is structured, there is even more frustration there. we know that women who need a...