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With an eye toward i dont -- we dont want an escalation into something that is wider. right now look at what putin -- where hes stuck. could he have ambitions on nato countries on broadening this conflict? i dont think so. keep it inside those confines. give ukraine the capability to defend itself. ultimately hand a big loss to vladimir putin who wont survive it as a leader of russia. the leaders of russia never do when they have battlefield loss. >> martha: thats true. thanks, pete. >> thank yo...