america. how sure are you of that? it could be the main spring of the november elections. are you sure that the american people believe because we don t see it in the polls as you know. polls can change. the idea of, well, they came in illegally, but that s okay, we ll find another way, that does not have popular support. decency does. humanity does. being humane with who does come across illegally, i hear you on that, the idea of coming across illegally is not the end of the game for people. i don t know that that has public acceptance, does it? i agree with you, chris, and democrats are not saying open borders, because ice doesn t have do do with our borders, it s a totally separate agency. what we re seeing is ice terrorizing communities, in a way that makes us all less safe. what we want is people who are willing to go to the police and law enforcement, if they see a crime, they want to be a witness, two things they have
problem for democrats? some say abolish. some say reform. what s the difference between at its core what that means is that people are not happy with the performance of the job that ice is doing. it needs to be radically restructured and reformed. i don t know if all democrats you can t put all democrats in one bucket. i get the sense republicans and the president are happy to have this conversation. do you think democrats this is a debate to jump on right now? i think ice came up as a response to the family separation policy. donald trump s cruel and immoral policy of separating children from their parents. what trump tries to do is he takes one tiny segment of that response to the issue and tries to twist the conversation to that. we forget what we originally were talking about, the cruel and immoral policy that the trump administration initiated
this has done nothing to quiet the calls from some democrats to abolish the agency in charge of enforcing immigration law in the country, ice, as it is known. it seems the white house is more than happy to highlight that, utilizing the official white house twitter feed, not just the president s. they are tweeting directly at democratic senators calling for the abolishment of ice. like this one, why are you supporting the animals of ms-13? you must not know what ice does. here is a link to help you out. something of a snarky public service announcement or more? keith, this isn t all democrats who are calling for to abolish ice. this is some 2020 democrats, i think is one notable distinction here. what do you think of this let s call it a theme. what do you think of the theme,
trump it telling his supporters can we push back the clock to the 1950s and pretend progress isn t happening. it s about reinforcing the it s a radical and very dangerous situation to abolish an enforcement agency like ice. i m not clear, who is for abolish? who is for reform? that s at the core of the problem? let s debate it regardless. thank you so much. coming up, the race to save a youth soccer team trapped more than a half mile underground in a pitch-black cave. now the hard work ahead. crowne, we know business travel isn t just business. there s this. a bit of this. why not? your hotel should make it easy to do all the things you do. which is what we do. crowne plaza. we re all business, mostly.
what do you think? i know it s a social media feed. but it s an official white house account. this is public policy that we re dealing with. one side is looking to abolish or reinvent, however you want to say it. the protests are simple, abolish ice. what does that mean? you just said, nobody knows what that means. it means different things to different people. what it would mean is you take immigration, customs and enforcement the immigration and enforcement will go away. that s what a lot of people don t want. what s bothering them is the enforcement. is it going back to immigration and naturalization and it s going to be stamping passports and checking bags at the port of entry? then we will really suffer as a country. what ice does is public safety. that s what they do. arrest and deport. that s a very important function of ice. that s what s really irritating those on the left. the problem is that the functions of ice have been meshed up. they re doing too many things