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This? >> well, in some sense, in terms of him deflecting attention from what the president is saying and doing, maybe he is being effective. i think overall hes been a tremendous distraction, and we see that text exchange from october 11th, i believe. and it was when the president first started to try to sort of put some distance between himself and giuliani. he said some things that echoed language that hes previously used before he has fired somebody. and so it called into question whether or ...

When he knows it isnt true. hes not a stupid guy. he understands the facts here, and hes just playing partisan politics in its meanest form. >> olivia, speaking of conflicts, rudy giuliani -- conflicts of interest specifically. hes contradicted himself over ukraine in media appearances, accidentally dialed reporters and had some bizarre text exchanges. you actually wrote a piece about it. heres one you had with him that included a stop sign emoji. how effective can he be as a lawyer in he acts s...