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Heartbreaking as we have talked about for two weeks, but i think whats changed in the last few days, sandra, these people have not only been through so much to get here as i said, 4 or 5-day journeys, but so much in their home towns before they left. i mean, we are talking to people now who had literally been through the war. people from kharkiv, for example, i met a number of young mothers with their children who just saw their town getting absolutely destroyed, literally. a mother i spoke to y...

Impeachment hearings? >> they may but i dont think that thats a reason that -- i have not heard journalists talking that way. that may be going on in the background or in corporate offices but i dont think that journalists even really think that way. >> back to saps point its important to separate between commentatorses who do want impeachment and advocating for it, liberal journalists at left leaning magazines advocating for it versus news rooms and journalists. >> i do think as match said, you...