this verb ang here, our whole team, the cnn legal team is pouring over this document right now. this is the first time we ve learned that. this is the first time that we have been told officially by the special counsel s team that a trump campaign official directed contact with wikileaks, directed roger stone to figure out what was going on here. this is new. that s zbliright. anne, how significant is that? it s enormous. i think we ve all known or suspected from the trump tower meeting they were looking for dirt on clinton, there was an appetite to get whatever they could on her. but this direction directly back to the campaign along with what i think are pretty specific, when you read through the indictment there s a lot of text messages and back and forth between stone and other folks that he is getting information from organization one. it may not be directly and it may not be exactly accurate, but it does look to be relevant to the timeline we know publicly. but just so i
campaign officials about organization one, which has always been wikileaks, is my understanding, and information it might have had that would be damaging to the clinton campaign. stone was contacted by senior trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases by organization one. explain the significance of that right roe,ger stone and the tru campaign, it seems to me, had conversations in the summer about wikileaks. reporter: this is one of the huge questions is whether roger stone had an early independent occasi indication that wikileaks was going to release information that would be beneficial to donald trump and whether he shared that early heads-up with people inside the trump campaign. now, stone has vehemently denied over and over again that he had any sort of early look at
soon as we can, but, sara, to the extent that you understand the specifics in these charges, obstruction, false statements, witness tampering, give us some details there. reporter: well, we re still, as you pointed out, we just got this information that stone has been take mean it custody, just got this information about the documents. so we re looking over it. i believe that it is probably going to have to do with some of his testimony to congress. again, i have not had the chance to read through these fully, but we know that mueller s team recently requested from the house intelligence committee a copy of roger stone s testimony and we know they asked other witnesses about the possibility that roger stone may have made some false statements in congress. and we re going to dig into this. but it s seven counts. this is no small deal. you know, sara, i just opened the document right now and think our viewers are going to have to bear with us as we read this in realtime. among the ve
reporting that the cnn reporter spoke to his counsel, to roger stone s counsel yesterday and he was unaware of this. that is unusual. as a rule, when somebody is under when somebody is under investigation and the government knows they re represented, at that point they would go through the lawyer and say, hey, we want you to voluntarily turn yourself in. that means they think he s a flight risk. they could think he s a flight risk. two, they could think that there s evidence or other things that he might want to he would stash. right. we just don t know. but it is not the normal course that you would go through, you know, when someone s represented by counsel and you have reason to believe they would voluntarily turn themselves in. listen, reading through this indictment is just stunning. so, john, i m on page eight, letter f on or about october 1st, 2016, which was a saturday, person number two who we believe is not jerome corsi, do we know who person number two? it ap
basically anything other than what the american public was seeing since releasing it. but this indictment does suggest that the special counsel s office believes he got some kind of information, was in touch with some folks at the trump campaign about these releases. and what does it tell you that he has been indicted on these seven counts by a grand jury yesterday, arrested this morning if people are just wablingi waking up, roger stone has been taken into custody, about false statements and witness tampering. none of those are about the crimes of collusion, this is about the crimes of cover-up. but remember what john just read which is really important, which is that there were contacts between he and the trump campaign and organization one wikileaks. so this is a really important point which is that he may have lied about that, the government may be able to prove that he lied about it. that doesn t mean that there wasn t involvement, it means that he didn t tell the truth about