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Newshour, that had been doing that quite successfully for some time. >> and i think we would all agree that how the female co-hosts, how savannah, how hoda, how nora, and how gayle all handled this, which is the most impossible of impossible situations, to be put on, to say on live tv, to have to present this and report it. so admirably. >> it is. and they were so -- weve seen some really eloquent moments out of these women. because as they said, it is a tough situation. its somebody that they a...