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And its taken us years to reflect, but theres a way to take a loss and turn it into manager positive. into something positive and be purposeful about it. and thats really what weve done. griff: heather, when we talk about properly honoring our american heroes, its a heavy thing, and were going to be doing that tomorrow. but yet with you guys and what youre writing in this book, theres really inspiration. its almost uplifting. >> yeah. i i hope it humanizes them, you know? theyre american father-...

Kinds of talk and controversy, if you will, about kids being at the post-game press conferences. you had a lot of reporters complaining that hey, im here to make deadline. i know its cute with your child but this is a workplace and the kid shouldnt be there. several guys do do this every once in awhile. this started a huge and nasty back and forth. >> i think it makes them seem more real. humanizes them. its nice to see their kids. come on. >> nba loves it as much bad press as sometimes athletes...