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No. no. >>neil: but if kids are doing badly and, listen, they are not as great parents as you guys, should there be some measure or punishment for those who dont care or slough off or dont take the responsibility. >>guest: there is a big difference between sloughing off but if your kid is running around with neonazi signs and burning cats in the street that is a signal your kid has problems, a red flag and if they do something bad, you do have liability. but just because --. >>neil: so, skipping...