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That position. >> lets talk about another big revelation, which is rudy giuliani saying president trump actually paid michael cohen back $130,000, which is pretty incredible. >> a small revelation. >> just a little revelation. what do you think is the strategy behind this? >> this is a white house where theres often breaking news. there are often things that have people raising their eyebrows. this was one everyone who follow this is white house really kind of collectively had a gasp when rudy g...