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>> we constantly think -- i mean, as a progressive, you constantly think, you know, why cant our base carry the same sort of weight in the democratic party that the republican base carries in theirs? and there is a trade up there, right? on the one hand, you have basically the democratic party -- what is the saying, the democratic party hates the space and the republican party spears the space? the democratic party tends to treat progressive activists with a fair degree of contempt. >> let me sa...