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Ups and downs than your average career. some of the most brutally difficult moments from a person can experience. i think about my private life being splashed across anywhere. i dont think anyone would want that. the idea that all of it was building towards the moment in which she runs again and doesnt win, that also seems tragic to me. >> well, its bizarre theres such a sense of, have we learned nothing? that were all talking about her as the inevitable nominee. that "time" cover -- >> "people"...

That. the idea that all of it was building towards the moment in which she runs again and doesnt win, that also seems tragic to me. >> well, its bizarre theres such a sense of, have we learned nothing? that were all talking about her as the inevitable nominee. that "time" cover -- >> "people" ran the same cover. >> i dont think shes inevitable. im in the camp that she may have a difficult time in 2016 because theres this push for a new face, fresh blood, the party wanting someone whos much more ...

In some senses, you can make the case, some of the interventions were progressive in that they were humanitarian in scope, but there were underlying reasons for that besides humanitarian. so i think while shes clearly going to be a strong contender, the notion that shes inevitable is a dangerous one for her team to adopt again. >> i agree with that. i dont think shes inevitable, but that will not stop her, i think, from running. because ive not met anybody in politics with more inner strength as...