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You and others have done to point out how much our democracy may be in peril right now. not enough americans are finding that resonates with them. >> well, im hopeful that americans are still going to wake up to whats really going on. i think that january 6th commission as more and more information rolls out and, remember, ali, that we still have the hearings that this committee is going to have, in public, and im hopeful during primetime, which will allow everyday americans to see the absolute ...

About security clearances. but as you get more and more information about this, you really are just stunned at how reck less almost cavalier this white house is with respect to security clearances. and as more information rolls in from jared kushners activities, you just cannot make a logical case that he should keep a security clearance. >> at this point have you evolved on that, that you believe he should not now have a security clearance, which it seems different than what you were saying las...

Truth, why does jared kushner have a security clearance? >> if the flynn standard still holds, frankly theres a question why jared kushner is still in the white house, but certainly a more immediate question about whether its appropriate for him to have security clearance. >> if it were anyone but jared kushner, son-in-law of the president, he would be fired. but also clearly his security clearance revoked, and i think it should be. >> as more information rolls in from jared kushners activities,...

Democratic senator ron wyden. >> as you get more and more information about this you really are just stunned at how reckless, almost cavalier this white house is with respect to security clearances. and as more information rolls in from jared kushners activities you just cannot make a logical case that he should keep his security clearance. >> back now with the panel. kirsten, i mean, you know, easy for democrats to complain about it. unless the president decides -- first of all, he doesnt have ...

About security clearances. but as you get more and more information about this, you really are just stunned at how reckless almost cavalier this white house is with respect to security clearances. and as more information rolls in from jared kushners activities, you just cannot make a logical case that he should keep his security clearance. >> at this point have you evolved oen that. you believe he should not have a security clearance. >> i definitely believe if you look at all of this evidence h...

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