him what his itching ears wanted to hear. he is talking about your client there. >> i will say this about the former vice president. i want to -- i think the former vice president -- look at his insinnives around january 6. he had two choices. he could have said, dr. eastman, you may have a point, but i don't think there's any evidence of fraud or illegality here, as urm suggesting earlier. there would have been nothing inconsistent about that. the problem for viez president pence would be for obvious reasons that would be significantly dised avan tanlous to any future mrit cam campaign. the second option the vice president had, which is the one he chose, was to say, yes, a degree there was evidence of illegality and fraud, which he said publically at the time. but i think the constitution has tied my hands. i can't do anything about it.