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Scandals when that public appetite is not there, i dont think thats actually helpful for a party or any politician along -- >> the question last segment, what would it take? what kind of scandal? as we mentioned bush in 04. it is true in the second term, approval rating really did drop. he did lose, i guess, part much his base to the extent there are swing voters. he lost them. you can pin that on the scandals of the second term. put it the failures in iraq, that sort of thing. >> unpopular war,...

Nothing -- arent the drones you are looking for, not the scandal you are looking for. i think thats another way that makes the -- this irs piece so different. >> different kind of scandal. i want to put up a tweet here from -- rupert murdoch this week. responding to the irs story. i love that rupert murdoch is on the story poll way to handle the irs story is for a special prosecutor. one politicized government investigating another arm, bad week. used the term special prosecutor. i want to talk ...

Thing. if you are outlining exactly specifically what this means, this is also telling you exactly how to structure loopholes to get around it or structure organizations that are officially within the law bumt violate the spirit of the law and so -- thats what people always complain about. groups getting around, hard and why is it common sense? when people try to do it in a common sense way, this is what happens. >> there is a -- thats the issue. thats the issue here. idea this has fallen -- thr...

Looking after -- groups on the right, right now thinks the irs is really out to get them. and yet, it is the irs right now thats charged with overseeing these groups with all the -- money is sort of proliferating. is it -- feasible that we are going to get any reforms since the irs is going to have to implement this in the reform? >> at least people are talking about it. i mean, feel like last year i was covering the subject the entire year and a lot of times you felt like you were right into th...

Cents per garment. and the average work earns $38 a month. we are not talking about -- >> seems like comparable numbers. when -- when walmart saying we -- whoevers source saying it, you are raising the cost as something that is similar to a workers wage. you may be doubling effectively doubling the labor cost of bangladesh. it is not unrealistic. >> lets talk about u.s. workers. it is not surprising that walmart is one of the major retailers that is involved in the outsourcing. walmart, theres -...

We are lowering standards for american workers and we have seen that decline in the last 20 years. decline of union membership and low minimum wage and so those battles are happening here. so we need to really look at it in a -- >> there also is the issue of -- you know, said that -- it started here and it ended in bangladesh and also raises the question -- you know, if companies start leave bangladesh is there anywhere else left for them to go? [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more do...

I dont know they change anybodys votes. >> i think the big question is super pacs at least -- acknowledge that they are political action committees and disclose their donors. what we have seen with some of these c-4 groups is that they are applying to the irs for c-4 stat us and applications say we are not going to spend money onful particulars. a group that said as they were mailing their application for the irs, not spending money on politics, already up and running ads in nevada and florida. ...

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