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December 10, 2014
Things i read while he was doing other things, he had a much broader portfolio than i did and i spent a lot of my time just on national security. but i think he knew everything he needed to know and wanted to know about the program. >> did he know the details? >> i think he knew certainly the techniques that we did discuss the techniques. theres no effort on our part to keep him from that. he was just as with the terrorist surveillance program, he had to personally sign off on that every 30 to...
December 10, 2014
Is that the man you represented? is there anyone there left to charge or run through a legal process. >> i have to be somewhat cautious around client sensitivities, but i can say he and other torture survivors who work with suffer the predicable consequences which is to shatter people, to break them. rectal hydration which is a form of aggressive sexual assault. >> this term ive encountered before in my life. it sounds like forced feeding down the tube. its simply a means of degrading somehow. >...
December 10, 2014
Person described who was running interrogation program describing it as a train wreck. its very, very powerful. you realize just how unprepared the cia was for interrogating the suspects and how unprepared the country was and all the% takes that flowed from that. is this a fair minded report? i think thats one of the questions we are struggling with. the tone was almost prosecutorial. in every instance, it was never to look for the worst construction, the possibility that the cia had willfully, ...
December 10, 2014
What he calls a smear campaign. joining us is chris frates of cnn investigations and, chris, you spoke with james mitchell. interestingly enough, its a pseudonym used in the report. the name james mitchell doesnt appear there but everyone knows or seems to know theyre talking about him. what does he say about all this? >> good morning, john. actually, james mitchell is his real name. he is referred to in the report by a pseudonym and when i talked to james mitchell, he couldnt confirm or deny th...
December 10, 2014
Investigation as widespread as this u.s. investigation into its role into torture techniques and assisting the united states. we have heard also comments from a british muslim who was held in guantanamo prison. and in his comments, he says that what must follow now is prosecution for those responsible for torture. what he also goes on to say is that now that the united states has broken the rules of war and violated conventions on torture. then the gloves are off. the rules have been broken. so ...
December 10, 2014
He used a more color word when he talked to me. >> ill take your word for it. >> he also said when the interrogation program was running, cia officials were in a battle with al qaeda and at that time remember it was a group they knew very little about. they did the best they could given the information they had, brooke. >> i also heard that you said he defended a number of those interrogation techniques. how did he defend? what techniques did he defend? >> he seemed to defend interrogation techn...
December 10, 2014
Its simply a means of degrading somehow. >> clearly. that is the point of this interrogation program. its so many of these brutal, sadistic, torture techniques. people watching this saying these people are associated with people who murdered 3,000 americans. and whether it was wrong or not, im going not going to sit here and feel a whole lot of sympathy for your clients. >> i dont necessarily ask them to have sympathy for our clients. i expect them to have sympathy for a democracy and torture is...
December 10, 2014
Site cobalt manager during the period in which a cia detainee died and numerous cia detainees were subjected to unapproved coercive interrogation techniques. and of course, its no surprise that they didnt have anyone who knew how to do this. the cia wasnt in the business of doing this kind of torture. >> yes, absolutely. and that really stands out, the example you pointed out. and sadly, several instances of that explained throughout the report, where we had these officers who were put in charge...
December 10, 2014
Chiefs say the program was fully authorized by the justice department and the white house. the report says president bush didnt know all the specifics but just last week, he defended the cia. >> were fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the cia. >> reporter: one key question, did the interrogations help get osama bin laden? the report says no. the cia says yes. that only through harsh interrogation did they discover bin laden the personal messenger and following the mess. >>er led to...
December 10, 2014
>> were going to ask john rizo about all this coming up later in the show. he served as the agencys chief legal officer. he was the first person to receive a memorandum wroe from the justice department authorizing the enhanced interrogation program. >> time for my take now. if everything in the senate intelligence report on the cia is so damning and illegal, then why did the report conclude, as we just discussed that, no legal action should occur, and why is the department of justice not moving ...