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This week in quebec this is a narrative that this president is pushing that not only he is pulling out of many of these multinational deals, but he is looking to just these bilateral deals one-on-one. >> yeah. isnt isolationism. he is replacing nafta potentially with one-on-one deals and he is doing it in an erratic fashion. this is the other concern. there doesnt seem to be a rhyme and reason to where he will strike next and many allies are not confident they can communicate with the president ...

And i think what nixon did opening china probably was the right thing to do. and i think we have a better chance of defeating castro with trade than we do with an embargo that just simply hasnt worked. >> i know you wrote in your op-ed lets hope cooler heads will ultimately prevail and we unleash a trade tsunami that washes the castros once and for all into the sea. is that a little too polly anna? >> i think we have the same goals. i think we all want to defeat communism. wed like to see repres...

Including senator rubio who say this is an embargo full of holes, there is all kinds of business going on back and forth, theres travel going on back and forth, how do we know the embargo would work if its never really enforced at least not the last couple decades? >> heres the problem, if its full of holes and doesnt work, why does he want to keep it so much? why keep something thats not working. >> actual enforcement -- >> i know. but we have to have a debate really, what is better? isolationi...

But i would say i dont doubt his sincerity, but i dont think a policy of isolationism has really worked with regard to cuba. weve isolated, we havent traded, we havent had diplomatic relations and castros have remained in power for over 50 years and yet we trade with china, we trade with vietnam, we trade with laos. we trade with a host of countries that dont have perfect human rights records. and yet we dont trade with cuba. i think trade might loosen things up and might help to topple the cast...

With us tonight. >> glad to be with you, shannon. >> okay. several tweets today, not just one, there were several. are you trying to pick a fight here? whats going on? >> oh, you know, i never start a fight but im happy to finish a fight. i think the remarks were a little bit rude and intemperate. >> meaning yours or senator rubios? >> well, i didnt start this, shannon, you know. what i would say is the remarks were intemperate and rude. and so we responded to them. but i would say i dont doubt ...

You know when you use the word isolationism or refer to senator rubio as taking an isolationist tact, your critics immediately say that is something they feel is maybe the pot calling the kettle black. >> thats just because they mis -- >> -- isis and others. clarify for us. >> heres the thing, shannon. the reason we point this out is to point out their hypocrisy on this and their misunderstanding of the term. because im one who does believe in trade and diplomacy and engagement around the world....

I think we all want to defeat communism. wed like to see representative democracy in cuba. we all want that. its just a question whether or not engagement or isolationism is the better policy. weve had cuban isolationism for 50 years, no trade, no diplomacy. and yet it hasnt worked. so i think trade, i think travel, when they see our stuff, when they see cell phones and smartphones and ipads, and when they see all of that and when people take money down there and buy things and their economy cou...

Isolationism or engagement? and i think really engaging nations -- look, for seven years we were at logger heads with the russians and we still are to a degree, yet we have an embassy there and we do trade. we do trade with cuba. it only goes one way. they dont sell anything to us, we do sell some stuff to them. but i think trade does draw us together. trade makes us much less likely to fight. we trade with china. look what happened after the vietnam war. one of the leaders opening up vietnam wa...