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If the defense loses, they can appeal on the theory of liability and they can also appeal on the amount. regardless of which side wins, dana, i think we are going to see an appeal. this is literally the first step in a row that could be much longer. >> dana: it philip, thanks for helping us understand it. we appreciate it. >> happy to do it. >> dana: a 3-year-old mashup you massachusetts boy. the boy affectionately called, the mighty quinn. members of the dropkick murphys celtic fans. [singing] ...