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Position, an unorthodox position for sure. it plays with these areas in process, michigan, ohio. they think that the factories are gone because of trade with mexico and china and other countries. so we better figure out, austin a better way to persuade the american people that the trade deals are good for us. >> lets say it plays there. is it worth playing there and losing the rest of the country. >> im not defending the policy. im not defending the policy im just saying the politics. imprisonin...

>> lets just say it does play there. is it worth playing there and losing the rest of the country. >> im not defending the policy. im not defending the policy im just saying the politics. i think that the policy is wrong. im trying to tamper it back. if i advised trump, i would he tell him, mr. president, look, you can aim the tariffs against countries that are enemies of the united states like china and. china does steel. theyre stealing our technologies, cheating on the trade deals. im in favo...