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In now? >> well, if hes deriving benefit, campaign benefit, from these hush payments, it can be a campaign finance violation. so if theres an actual setup of that, those documents will be discovered. >> what do you make of karen mcdougal? do you think this is going to matter to anybody or is this just noise on the side, any voters? >> i dont know. ive given up -- >> adrian, what do you think? >> adrian, i think you guys should talk about this topic. >> you just love talking about it. >> youre mu...