to manage defendants, different allegations, different kinds of motions. it s a lot for the court to manage, on top of managing donald trump. some of those 19, theoretically, could make deals prior to this going to trial. i mean as you said, some of them are on the fringes of this, others are right at the epicenter. sure. the recount, as i understand it, it has a 5 to 20 range of sentencing. so anybody in this defendant group, who is looking in five years, is going to think long and hard oh whether or not they really want to take, where the trump flag, and go over the cliff carrying it. i think there will absolutely be defendants who want to cooperate, who want to try to resolve this. i m not sure that d. a. willis needs that cooperation, it seems like a very strong, straightforward indictment. obviously, it s quite detailed, and there s not a lot a lot left to the imagination.
something he can control if he becomes president again, although i think there s an argument as to whether a state case would actually go for it against the sitting president of the way this is. but yes, this is many tentacles, it s big, it s fully luminous, and a lot of allegations in it. and there s a lot of people connected to it, not all of whom are in his direct orbit. that s the other thing to bear in mind. yeah, the second half of that list is all, like, count coffee county officials who are directly connected to him. mark meadows is though. and to see his name, as i was reading through it when i got released last night, read mark randele meadows, i mean, it just stood out. he has been indicted in the other cases. he s now the first one to try to say, well, i was just fulfilling my official white house duties. and that s why trying to get moved to a federal court here. it s an argument that i expect former president trump will make as well, which is that they were acting u
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i think what it means, first and foremost for the judge, in this case. how do you manage a man like donald trump, as a defendant? an average defendant, who has said what he said, who has done what he s done under indictment, will be hauled back into court, and threatened with contempt, incarceration, or a huge fine. none of those things necessarily are dissuading factors for donald trump. again, i m speculating. but were he to be put into jail on contempt for are doing something a stupid as his picture with him in a bat, and dea brad s clearly, intimidating. but we re him to be put in records island? i honestly think, he d probably use it as a mechanism to excite his crowd, and. no judge has really. this is unprecedented, so there is no judge who has experience with a character like this? no, i don t think ever with
charged as a racketeering enterprise. and one of the things that also struck me is how well these facts fit that georgia statute, which is normally for organized crime. but here you had kind of a sprawling organized criminal effort to overturn the election. and tying in all of these elements, showing how they fit together, showing how some work independently but nonetheless were part of the overall scheme to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power make that georgia indictment pretty powerful. given the fact that mark meadows is not named in the federal indictment, there are questions in trump s orbit by pretty much everyone who covers this about whether or not he s cooperating. of course, we can t say for sure. but if he is, and jack smith is relying on him, that could cause some complications here. do you believe that the state should have deferred to the federal prosecution, given the federal indictment was already issued? you know, i was listening to your discussion with g