think about the women in the republican party and the republican party that barbara bush was part of for so long and where it is right now? well, there s just hardly any moderates there. david will tell you what happens if you re moderate, if you even talk to a democrat and what trump did to the bush family when he went after jeb the way he did, so cynically and brutally, was to take a wrecking ball to the history of the republican party and you fellow, you might say barbara, what are your dee credentials for speaking about republicans. i m a lifelong democrat. but my first big campaign i supported a republican named peter bear for the state senate because he was a great environmentalist. we had a different republican party. of course, the bushes were part of that. and it was a big tent. barbara was in one side of the tent, her husband was kind of moving toward the right. but it was very different then.
execute people, that power has to be used in a way independent of any political influence. and so on a day-to-day basis, we were we made sure that we made our decisions on the basis of the law and the facts without any consideration of what the white house wanted us to do. sometimes to the detriment of the relationship that we had with the white house. not anything that was necessarily expressed directly to me but things that i heard maybe sometime thereafter because i think in the obama administration, the president realized that an independent justice department was something that was important. did it mean to you when you were there, matt? i came to the justice department from politics and learned early you had to look at this job differently than any job you had had because there is this culture inside the department. you learn it on day one. everyone understands it that you don t talk to the white house about criminal cases. you can talk to them about some things, policy mat
one way and those other whoever those other people are treated in a different way. we re going to now do something slightly strange which is play a game of eric holder, this is your life with an individual that you worked with at the justice department who is a friend of the show, matt miller will join us. we re going to talk about what is going on the in department of justice right now. stay with us if you would. and you at home, as well. we ll be right back. maker you ve ever met. there s a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it s about delivering a more comfortable shave every time. invented in boston, made and sold around the world. now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get.
of itself is the way to keep the american people safe without looking at all the things that have happened since then. does it strike you there s a contradiction to the way the president talks about the rule of law when it s people like rob porter accuse confidential domestic violence by two i different women and talks about there s no due process for him and knob attorney/client privilege. he s a real bleeding heart liberal public defender minded person when he talks about due process and people in his inner circle and when he talks about drug dealers he says we should execute them and deport all the immigrants. how do you make sense of those two different ways the president talks about law and order. believes in situational law and order. there is no way that i think you can resolve the tension that you have you just described. he is not a believer in the rule of law. he wants to make sure that those people who he likes, the people who support him are treated in
and feelings and strivings of more ordinary americans than what the patrician elder bush family had been used to and even in her own upraising. that was certainly what gave them the ability to embrace american culture, the american west in a way they never would have been. if she had not been willing to move 27 times in 73 years of marriage whether it was going to china as envoy before we had diplomatic relations with china to the cia as well as to the united nations when he was the ambassador there. then watching her son become president and then watching of course, the disappointments politically of her son jeb and now campaigning, as well in recent years for george p bush. jeb s son. so many generations of bushes owe her so much. the love, loyalty. and the fierce pride she had and devotion to her family. i want you to stay with us if that s all right.