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The whole logic im a winner. vote for winners so i can continue to win. the problem is that he is down in iowa and several polls, cruz is up and so now you are starting to see him make noises about spending zone a trump voter according to the data is much less likely to show up at the polls and this a rubio or cruz voter. >> how do you fix that with money is it ads? >> >> this is where i dont know if its going to work. he says he is going to buy ads. this is the exact opposite of what jeb is doi...

The whole logic im a winner. vote for winners so i can continue to win. the problem is that he is down in iowa and several polls, cruz is up and so now you are starting to see him make noises about spending zone a trump voter according to the data is much less likely to show up at the polls and this a rubio or cruz voter. >> how do you fix that with money is it ads? >> >> this is where i dont know if its going to work. he says he is going to buy ads. this is the exact opposite of what jeb is doi...

You dont cure a child molester. >> so i want to ask you about the immigration fracas going on out there. you put immigration front and center. >> you wouldnt even be talking about immigration if it wasnt for me. >> you put it on the table. and you were criticized heavily at the debate. kasich, jeb bush saying your -- >> theyre weak people. i watched jeb today. theyre weak people. and kasich made a fool out of himself in the debate. >> how do you take 11 million people and make them leave. >> you...

Talking about this. in milwaukee, john kasich confronted donald trump about it. but not before he took a shot at ben carson. >> he said hes pathological. someone says he had pathological disease. other people say he said in the book that hes got a pathological temper or temperament. that its a big problem because you dont cure that. thats like -- you know, i could say, they say you dont cure -- as an example -- child molester. you dont cure these people. you dont cure a child molester. >> so i w...

Immigration fracas thats going on out there. >> you wouldnt be talking about immigration if it wasnt for me. >> you have put it on the table. now, of course, you were criticized heavily at the debate. kasich, jeb bush saying you -- >> excuse me. theyre weak people. i watched jeb today. theyre weak people. kasich made a fool of himself at the debate. >> the question s how do you take 11 million people and make them leave? >> you do in a humane matter. >> they arent going to want to leave. you hav...

Not put it on the table. >> you were criticized heavily -- >> theyre weak people. i watched jeb today. theyre weak people. and kasich made a fool out of himself in the debate. what he said was ridiculous. everybody was uniform in the fact that cakasich did a bad jo >> on the one point of importing 11 million people, even marco rubio said -- >> marco rubio is in favor of amnesty. he was a member of the gang of eight. he was always in favor of amnesty, people pouring into the country. then what ha...

Credibility. and what im saying is, i would rather they didnt happen. i dont want somebody that went after his mother with a hammer. >> to be president? >> i dont want somebody, frankly -- i didnt read his book but, according to the book, he says hes pathological. thats a very serious term. >> so i want to ask you about the immigration that is going on out there. you put immigration front and center in the gop conversation. >> you wouldnt even be talking about immigration if it wasnt for me. >> ...

Leadership. the answer isnt sending someone from one side of the capital city to the other. the challenges we face as a nation are too great to roll the dice on another presidential experiment. to trust the rhetoric of reform over a record of reform. >> jeb bush taking a veiled swipe at his opponent marco rubio and some of the other outside candidates during the first stop of a push through florida as bush tries to restart a struggling campaign. joining me for our daily fix, national political r...

>> speaking of speaking to them, you have got paul simon, the hedge fund billionaire in new york who was sought desperately by both rubio and bush and signed up with rubio. >> that was a very big development behind the scenes. mr. singer is a billionaire, hes got a lot of money that he wants to invest in politics. hes done it in the past. he was a big fish who was on the sidelines and both -- well, all sorts of candidates had appealed to him for him to side with marco sent a major signal to othe...

Of your reaction as i was looking on social media during the debate. this morning you characterized the overwhelming sentiment as sympathy for jeb bush and tweeted bush was not good but rubio being so good makes it way, way worse for jeb today. all that being laid out there, where does the campaign go from here? is there a reset that can happen? >> always. especially because its still october 2015 and right to rise, the jeb bush super pac, still has $95 million in it. that said, you know, i thin...