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Ongoing criminal investigation. i think thats serious. >> and the context here. youre talking a during terms of negotiation. if youre muellers team, youll say things on encourage the actual interview. where is the legal jeopardy running? you can imagine counsel saying, if i speak to you, what happens? >> take a listen to your former colleague, congressman trey do you do withy -- trey dowdy. >> i would tell you, if you do not rob the bank, there is no reason for you to not sit down and talk about...