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The debt ceiling is not the future. its the past. its allowing us to borrow money to pay for money we already borrowed. its as if we spend money on our credit card and say at the end of the month im not going to pay it, and it wrecks your credit. its not about future opportunity to borrow. its spending already incurred. and if you look back at 2011, you can see the job numbers, the dip in the summer of 2011, when we went through that hostage taking. >> this is a matter of politics, carly, the re...

Carl cannon there. we had a debate on whether we were going to have an independent president in the next ten years or so. i think we are. carl cannon also agrees. a bit of a divide there. >> we also had a real consensus about the importance of taking first steps of bringing people together like the congressional staffs and getting them together and then their members together and people actually talking to one another. and thats the first step toward reaching some problem solving. >> thank you f...

All right. welcome back to "morning joe." at 47 past the hour. >> oh, look who just popped up. >> what? ive been here. ive been here the whole time. >> how was monte carlo? >> i was not in nice. you have to stop the south of france thing. >> she just flew in from the south of france. >> its been five years. in the five years of doing the show, i have never been to the south of france. >> allegedly. >> thats just not true. she has never been in the south of france, as she said, on a camel. but --...

Massachusetts legislation. and you know what? he should have not only run on it in the general election. he should have run on it in the primaries instead of running away from it. again, joe klein, i said it last hour, ill say it again. and i disagree with you on daniel henninger and "the wall street journal." they may not have loved the specifics, but they would say its federalism. back in the 1990s, john ingler and tommy thompson and a lot of other republicans, they experimented with health ca...

Of, a law he is proud of, that he hasnt been able to embrace it again because of the complicated primary dynamics. this is probably where he should have been all along, but hes now been so contradictory on it over time, its hard to see it ever giving him the kind of political advantage it might have under other circumstances. >> you know it shows two political weaknesses on romneys part. the first is what conservatives have been complaining about, especially over the past month, mainly off camer...

>> but you said that was a strategy, thats what you learned. i want to come back to the question. its a hostage thats worth ransoming, the debt ceiling of the united states government. is that the strategy that you would ransom that here again to force the kind of spending cuts that you think are necessary? >> its a shame that we have to use whatever leverage we have in congress to get the president to deal with the biggest problem confronting our future. and thats our excessive spending. >> but...