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standing by its assuretion the order for daca that was put in by president obama was a circumvention of the powers of the united states congress and they say they will continue to litigate over this issue. very interesting also that the executive branch in this case is advocating for the powers of the legislative branch, and that's where we are. we have more of that on a statement from the ruling from white house press second sarah sanders this morning. we find this decision to be outrageous, especially in light of the president's successful bipartisan meeting with house and senate members at the white house on the same day, and an issue of this magnitude, she says, must go through the normal legislative process and adds that the president is committed to the rule of law and is going to work with members of both parties to reach a permanent solution that correct the unconstitutional actions taken by the last administration. this fight apparently is going to go on, and the ruling from the west coast is only temporary, john. >> joe, it's interesting, sarah sanders says this meeting yesterday was successful. successful in what? do we now know what the president wants on immigration? >> reporter: no, it's muddy and murky right now. as you might remember the president did seem to back off a bit from what he said on the campaign trail about a wall all the way along the southwest border, suggesting there will be places where it's not needed, and then he came back and tweeted something completely different. what we do know are the administrations priorities, that's enhancing border security and ending chain migration and ending the diversity visa process he talked so much about, and also protecting the d.r.e.a.m.ers. a big part of that is protecting the d.r.e.a.m.ers, which is something democrats want as well and the wall seems to be the big sticking point. >> joe johns at the white house, thank you for that. with us now, our national security and legal analyst, susan hennessy. in this judge's ruling, a federal judge from california, rescinding daca -- rescinding the trump move on daca, calling it arbitrary and capricious, and also talking about what this judge says, it's broad and sweeping across the united states and not just northern california. what does this mean for daca? legally where does this thing go? >> this is just a preliminary injunction and it's the first step that prevents the executive branch from recenting daca while the underlying issues are litigated. it's more of a pause. the government will almost certainly appeal that preliminary injunction so they could get the temporary pause reversed in the near future and win on the merits. this is the legal affect here is certainly temporary and the entire sort of legal question might be mooted if the legislature reach as solution in the interim. >> it's a more political question than a legal question, but you can make a case this removes the urgency as long as this judge's order is in place, it removes the urgency for congress to do anything, so protection for d.r.e.a.m.ers existed at this second? >> yeah, that's one way to think about it. the alternative read is this is going to be keeping it in the headlines, and if there's going to be on the ongoing litigation, every time a new order was issued that was headline news and it did push this narrative that maybe the president would rather not be a headliner front page news so it's possible this could have the opposite affect and keep this front and center in a way that mounts more pressure on wanting a legislative solution and certainty for these many of hundreds of thousands of individuals. >> don't go far, we will come back to you in just a moment for more legal advise. me meantime, joining us is our cnn political correspondents. it was a victory for transparency. >> 54 minutes of cameras. >> beyond that, two key questions, right? what does it accomplish legislatively and what does it prove? what did it accomplish in terms of hammering out a deal for d.r.e.a.m.ers? are we any closer to a deal? >> i think one could argue that we are not. if anything, you see how far apart the two sides are. i think what you do see is a lot of ambiguity of where the president stands. the president comes to the table saying we will make it work and at times seems to align himself more with democrats and then you see mccarthy saying, you don't understand, i don't think mr. president what fieinstein is saying is a clean bill, and he says i do understand. you said the president wanting to show that he is mentally sound, i think, the timing can't be ignored and also the president really wants a deal. >> let's listen to that exchange. let's play it. >> i would like to ask a question, what about a clean daca bill now with the commitment that we go into a comprehensive immigration reform procedure? >> i think that's basically what dick is saying, we will come up with daca and then start immediately on the phase two, which would be comprehensive -- >> mr. president, you need to be clear, though. i think what senator feinstein is asking here, when we talk about just daca, we don't want to be back here two years later and you have to have security as the secretary will tell you. >> i think that's what she said. >> no, she is saying something different. >> kevin mccarthy said you need to be clear here, mr. president, and we know from the reporting the goal of the meeting was, of course, getting something done legislatively, and also according to our jeff zeleny for the president to grab the microphone and clearly display his competency, grasp of the issue after his mental fitness was called into question by michael wolff's book, "fire and fury." did he do that? >> no, you can see it on display right there. the idea of the president being on different sides. a portion of that was not included in the white house transcript of that meeting. kudos to them for opening this up and giving us a window into how president trump operates, but they should also be honest in how they district transcripts. you can see on display president trump and his lack of knowledge on some of the policy details and some of the intricacies of immigration policy, which these senators and members of congress have been involved with for a long time. you saw them sort of republicans step in, but everybody left the meeting unclear of where president trump actually is on this, which is kind of what the whole meeting was about, to get clarity on how to proceed particularly on the more imminent question of the daca situation and they left the meeting with more muddle over how to proceed. >> it's no small thing, right? the clean daca question is no small thing. it's not an ancillary part of the discussion but the central part. the president had to have kevin mccarthy tell him what he thought, no, no, mr. president, that's not what you think and this is what you think, and it was remarkable and maybe counter to what the white house was trying to display. and the other theme is the idea expressed he has no view on any of it. he said i will sign what you all bring to me in this room even if i don't love it. that, too, a very interesting stance. >> yeah, interesting and also a problem for congress and for the president who wants to pass his agenda. the prevailing wisdom among members of congress is the president will say -- when you are in a meeting with him -- what he thinks you want to hear and then days or a couple weeks later take to twitter, and he did that with the obamacare compromise, and he did that with democrats when he dined with them last fall to talk about the d.r.e.a.m.ers. bottom line, a year into his presidency trump does not have a working relationship with congress. they have had to figure out how to work with him and around him. i don't see how the president tries to leverage congress to get what he wants going forward if they can't trust his word. >> let's switch gears here, guys, because there's new reporting that white house aides and high ranking folks inside the cabinet and white house have been told to make your decision by the end of the month about whether you are going to stay or leave. and zeleny is saying that includes two big names, the white house counsel, and mcmaster. he's not saying they are going to leaf bve but it's an open question. if they left, what impact would that be? >> john mcgahn has been mired in the russian investigation. i am not sure how much weight he brings to the table. mcmaster is a different element. mcmaster is a huge part of the administration's foreign policy initiative. for better or worse, he held on to some of the conventional foreign policy views this country has had towards north korea and towards iran and what have you. aside from just these big names leaving, i think a bigger question is the vacuum that it holds. you don't have a huge bench who is going to come in and fill these spots. i have not heard a name that could replace general mcmaster. he and the president have not seen eye to eye on many issues, but for better or worse he held on some stability. >> an interesting point. you use the word vacuum. and there's a case a vacuum already existed in the white house. doug high, our friend who wurpbged for republicans for a long time said there are people unwilling work in the white house and a lot of people in the white house are not willing to have come in. is there anything that could change that problem? >> the question is how do you fill these types of positions when there has been turmoil and turnover in the first year. you think about the cast of characters around the president at the start of the administration and most of those people have left. i think heading into the second year, and into a pretty important year ahead of the midterms how they fill those positions, because as doug eludes to and as we hear all around washington, people being approached and declining and they are not interested in working for the white house, so how they fill those positions that open up and those that are still vacant, there's a lot of vacancies as john eluded to, not only in the white house but in the state department and other various aspects of government that they are having trouble recruiting for. >> and that, in itself, and i don't mean to interrupt, it's stunning. that would be a great thing to add to your resume, and you would have job offers after serving in the administration, and here people view it as a true liability. >> like any job you weigh the pros and cons, and right now the trump administration has a lot of cons to working for them. it's in turmoil and it's historically unpopular and they don't seem to know where they are going, and the additional legal and financial implications if you work for this white house and robert mueller wants to talk to you, you have to lawyer up and pay that out of your own pocket. right now cons are outweighing the pros. >> we appreciate it. breaking news. hundreds of people waiting to be rescued this morning in california. the deadly mudslides and the flash floods have already killed 15 people. remarkable images. 300 people are stuck in their homes and rescuers cannot get to them. it's so bad officials say they have no idea how many people might be missing. paul is in phaupb smontecito. >> reporter: there's active search and rescue still going on and this is what they are ruckening with. an unimaginable in some ways debris flow. wood mixed with trees and mixed with parts of windows, brick, houses, sofa. these houses side by side about a mile north of the ocean here in montecito. as you pointed out, john, in another part to the northeast of me, romero canyon, and first responders saying these people sheltered in place because nobody could get to them because of enormous boulders and as we have seen time and time again, these trees that just seem to cause huge barriers, walls, if you will, so when that sun comes up they are going to start at daybreak rescuing or taking out people via helicopter. it's been an amazing thing to see in person, not far from me is the major artery, the 101 freeway. it's completely shut down. mud, cars stopped, surf boards and everything mixed together here. just a little to the north of me, this water came cascading off the ashy hillsides, and it's as if it hit a slip and slide straight down and over ran a creek and then turned streets into rivers. further up the road, houses completely ripped off their foundation and that's some of what we are seeing right here. back to you, john, poppy? >> thank you. those images are stunning. please bring us more as the sun comes up. we have a lot ahead, including the president sending a message on daca, making it clear they will take it up to the higher courts. the president, he will take your radio show and your tv gig you didn't have now, and that's certainly how it seems as steve bannon is out now. also, did the investigations into russian meddling just implode. no outrage over the release of a closed-door testimony -- ten hours of testimony about that dossier. does protecting the environment only matter in red states? the white house says it's okay to drill for oil off the u.s. coast, just not the florida coast after the republican governor of florida cries foul. to most, he's phil mickelson pro golfer. to me he's, well, dad. so when his joint pain from psoriatic arthritis got really bad, it scared me. and what could that pain mean? joint pain could mean joint damage. enbrel helps relieve joint pain, and helps stop further damage enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders and allergic reactions have occurred. tell your doctor if you've been someplace where fungal infections are common. or if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure or if you have persistent fever, bruising, bleeding or paleness. don't start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. since enbrel, dad's back to being dad. visit enbrel.com... and use the joint damage simulator to see how your joint damage could be progressing. ask about enbrel. enbrel. fda approved for over 14 years. when it comes to travel, i sweat the details. late checkout... ...down-alternative pillows... ...and of course, price. tripadvisor helps you book a... ...hotel without breaking a sweat. because we now instantly... ...search over 200 booking sites ...to find you the lowest price... ...on the hotel you want. don't sweat your booking. tripadvisor. the latest reviews. the lowest prices. new this morning. the president's personal lawyer is suing over the trump russia dossier. michael cohen is arguing that buzzfeed, and fusion gps defamed him. >> the lawsuit comes hours after the top democrat on the judiciary committee, feinstein, she released the transcript, the entire transcript of the co-founder's testimony. and that release fell like a ton of bricks where you are up there, manu. >> yeah, it infuriated grassley, who said by doing this it would undermine the investigation going forward. according to the transcript from the co-owner of fusion gps, and he defended his decision to hire christopher steele to investigate trump's business background and according to mr. simpson, mr. steele was so alarmed about what he found out about contacts between russia and trump associates and all the like that he had to go to the fbi to inform the fbi about what he found back in the summer of 2016. according to this transcript, simpson says this. chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a national security threat, and he said we were obligated to tell somebody in the government about this information. he thought from his perspective there was a security issue about whether a presidential candidate was being blackmailed. in addition to this, simpson also testified that somebody in the fbi had essentially believed what steele was saying because of an inside source, a trump campaign source, who had been giving them similar information. we have since learned that source referred to an australian diplomat passed information about the former trump campaign adviser, george papadopoulos, and discussions he had with the russians, and papadopoulos has since pleaded guilty of lying to the fbi about the contacts with the russians. at the same time both republicans and democrats on the committee are reacting to the release of this transcript with one democrat, chris coons, telling me yesterday this could effectively end the bipartisan investigation going forward. >> i think it's really unfortunate that the majority and minority on the judiciary committee really have come to an impasse in terms of being able to make progress. i think in some ways this is the signal in the end of bipartisan cooperation in the judiciary committee. >> and they were concerned about about how two have lied to the fbi about his contacts with the news media back in 2016, and they are asking the justice department to investigate that. >> susan hennessy back with us. as you have gone through this transcript, what is your main takeaway in terms of what open questions does it leave, and what holes, what blanks does it fill in? >> we should keep in mind the representations, it's hearsay, it's like the dossier itself. what is pretty apparent and sort of strikingly apparent in the tr transcripts is the look that there are two separate investigations, and that really is baring out two different lines of questioning. >> simpson tries to make clear that his mind was that christopher steele went to the fbi only after he had concerns from the investigation that he uncovered. you bring up the congressional committees. are they broken right now? we hear coops saying the judiciary committee is done because they are at an impasse, and house intel is in a mess, and where does that leave congress caring about the russian meddling? >> what we have seen one by one in various committees, initially there was bipartisan commitments to have an investigation to get to the bottom of things and we saw that in early january and february, and one by one they have fallen apart. that means the investigation may be coming to a close soon. you know, really the last man standing here is the ssci, and they continue to sort of try their best to maintain that sort of partisan cooperation in a sense of hey, look, our job is to get to the bottom of this to inform the american people, you know. we will see what happens if these other -- it appears the partisanship and the other committees has unified the ssci and they are committing to trying to have the last man standing here. >> the senate select committee on the intelligence is the ssci. so the viewers no. >> do you think there's merit to chuck grassley, to his argument that, you know, a big reason why he didn't want this transcript of glenn simpson's testimony released because he said that will make it more difficult to bring other witnesses before the judiciary committee voluntarily? >> it's unusual for a vice chairman like dianne feinstein to yomake a transcript public. it's possible for a witness to decide in advance that they want the transcript to be made public and that's a condition carter page made, and so in this case simpson was actually calling for the transcripts to be released and he was doing so after he felt the majority mischaracterized the nature of that engagement and his statements. whenever grassley says it's going to make it harder to bring in witnesses in the future, and usually they do have that if they release transcripts over their objection, and in this case the witness himself is asking for the transcript to be made public. how that would affect somebody like jared kushner moving forward, it's hard to understand the logic. >> and then any legal grand to stand out here to sue buzzfeed, and does he have a high burden to disprove the claims in the dossier? >> malice standard is a high standard and it's going to be a difficult case. that said, buzzfeed did make a decision that most other media organizations -- all other media organizations decided not to. lots of outlets had the dossier and decided not to publish it. this is a very high standard, however that was a really controversial decision to public the dossier and we will see what happens. one of the most interesting things is that now buzzfeed gets discovery. michael cohen is going to have to produce documentation, potentially communications with the president. new developments in morning in the ongoing odyssey of steve bannon. the president's one-time chief strategist -- oh, that feels like a long time ago, pushed out, stepped down from his post at breitbart after the public feud, the rift with the president. >> the relationship has been unraveling for a while but it really unravelled last week with the release of the book "fire and fury," and then quoted as saying he lost it, and taking aim at the president's family members. look, i mean, this shows us, right, what happens, can happen when you cross the president. >> right. i don't think that bannon quite realized exactly what he had done when he made those comments to wolff. i told you last week there were three things bannon had going for him, and one was his proximity to the president, and he lost that. the other one was the backing of the mercer family, mega donors, who were funding his endeavors and he lost that, and the one thing he had remaining was a perch at breitbart news and he lost that. it's unlikely he could stay relevant in politics, actually. >> and sirius xm cancelled his radio show, and fox news puts out something that we are not going to hire him. what is steve bannon, without a home, what does he do? >> that's not clear. people talking to him might say that he is still going to articulate his message and try fighting stuff on immigration going forward, and it's not clear what he's going to do. it's a big change for breitbart. breitbart over the last few years has been defined by steve bannon, and it's his platform and an extension of him. that's going to be interesting. i am told there's an old staff phone call later this afternoon with the editor in chief from breitbart and they are curious what it looks like for the publication moving forward. >> great to have you with us. great reporting. congress told by the president that he will sign whatever they bring him, whatever immigration deal they bring him, so what will they present? stick around. after more than 20 years, you can now join angie's list for free. that means everyone has access to our real reviews that we actually verify. and we can also verify that what goes down doesn't always come back up. ♪ [ splash ] [ toilet flushes ] so if you need a great plumber, find one at angie's list. join today for free. because your home is where our heart is. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. but when we brought our daughter home, that was it. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. it's the best thing that ever happened to me. every great why needs a great how. immigration negotiate kwraein the works in congress bg but not going that well. an aide said the outlines being considered right now wouldn't get half the support they need in the senate, let alone the house. >> of course you need half to pass in the senate. important. joining us now, democratic senator, tammy baldwin of wisconsin. thank you so much for being with us. there was a big bipartisan meeting at the white house yesterday. cameras were allowed in. 54 minutes, this free-willing discussion. glass half full. is the fact that the discussion happened and we were allowed to see it, is that a positive development? >> i think it is a positive development. i talked to several of my colleagues in that meeting, and while they describe the situation as a little surreal and some of the things said by the president were more than a little contradictory, i think the fact that they are focused on the d.r.e.a.m.ers and recognizing that is the urgent situation. the d.r.e.a.m.ers have known no other home than america and they need to have our action in order to come out of the shadows. there was bipartisan commitment to that at that meeting and elsewhere in congress. certainly those negotiations can involve some of the border security issues, but that is, you know, keeping our promise to the d.r.e.a.m.ers has to be the lead priority. i am hopeful we can get it done. >> sounds like maybe you are more open than some of the fellow democrats to giving what the president and other republicans want, a wall, border security. joe manchin said he would be okay with funding for a border wall as long as experts weighed in and said that's the right move, et cetera, in order to protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers. are you onboard for that or are you against even a dollar for this wall? >> i think we should be able to talk about border security in the context of passing the d.r.e.a.m. act and doing right by the d.r.e.a.m.ers. the wall, as the president has described it at times is actually ridiculous. we should be talking about infrastructure, our crumbling roads and bridges across america with the dollars where he is talking about a wall. just yesterday there was a pretty good report about how his intention to build a wall on the southern border would take resources away from time-tested security technologies on the southern border. we should be talking about border security but not the wall. >> so to be clear, yesterday he said, you know, and you are right, he has changed his position, and his position has moved from time to time on that issue, and he said yesterday, the most recent statement is it doesn't need to be a 2,000 mile wall because there are mountains and -- >> 700 -- >> he said nature. you are open to the idea of increasing border security, so it sounds like you may be open to language where democrats could say we are providing money for border security and later on the president can say, hey, look, we have money for border security that we are using to build a wall in some places. that would be okay with you, yes? >> there are walls already in some places. let's not ignore the facts on the ground. i think the negotiations that are occurring in the house in a bipartisan manner and in the senate in a bipartisan manner have always included a focus on security, but we also know we are in an urgent situation right now with regard to the d.r.e.a.m.ers. the president rescinded the daca protections last year. time is of the essence. a promise was made to those d.r.e.a.m.ers, those young people who have known no other home other than the united states of america, and we need to make good on the promise and need to do it now. >> let me ask you about your re-election campaign. as you know there are folks spending a lot of money against you, and new reporting showing $3.1 million against you, and more than anybody else in your position and other states at this point, and super pacs pouring in another 11 million to fight your re-election, and you think about how tough the battle could be for you in wisconsin, what is your reaction? what also all the talk about oprah maybe running for president. would you want somebody like oprah to come and campaign next to you? >> well, oprah is a daughter of milwaukee, wisconsin. we are so proud of her inspiration for so many, and her life's work. she's done incredible things during her career, so i like many others was deeply moved by her speech the other night. that said, i know there's a lot of talk about 2020 and her future, but as you suggest in your question, i am very much focused on fighting for wisconsinites and in the context of my re-election, in some ways i am not surprised by the outside spending because we know the special interests have taken an interest in getting rid of me. why? because i am not afraid to stand up to them on behalf of the hard working people of my state, and whether that's the pharmaceutical companies jacking up the cost of life-saving drugs or the folks fighting my efforts to create buy america and hire america policies. i am not at all surprised that they have taken note and it's not going to silence me. i will continue to fight for wisconsin's hard-working people in the senate every day. >> the buy america point -- we have to wrap it up, but that's something you and president have agreed on, that legislation, and you want him to move quickly on that. >> i do and the infrastructure package we are expecting from the president, i think buy america and hire america should be the centerpiece and that's what i will look for. >> we appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. days after the administration revealed its new offshore drilling plan, one state's republican governor says, no, not here, and the administration says, okay. is that going to work in other states? 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the republican governor asked. >> a lot of governors are asking, too, but what will their answer be to them. this comes after ryan zinke announced new drilling plans for coastal regions where drilling has been banned for decades. this happened last week, the allowing of the drilling and it was overshadowed by other news, and now florida says we don't want it so they don't have to do it? >> that's right. that's the case right now, and off the top of last week ryan zinke proposed rolling back a ban of offshore drilling on the coast of florida and california. you are looking at a map there of all the areas that would be impacted. they are also considering allowing leasing on more than 40 sites for natural gas and oil production. again, you are looking at the map there. zinke had not finished making his announcement when the florida governor asked for a meeting to discuss concerns about the plan. fast-forward to last night and we now have reporting that zinke now says that he will remove florida from that list of coastal areas where they would have this drilling, that will no longer be the case. he said i support the governor's position that florida is unique and its coast are heavily reliant on tourism as an economic driver. that's zinke's words, and other republican governors are saying not in my backyard and they are saying they want the same treatment that florida just got. the question is will the trump administration give equal consideration to all other coastal governors, whether they are from republican or democratic states? >> i will note in addition to the democrats, the republican states you mentioned, massachusetts has republican governors. >> as you bring up the point, is this all politics? many believe rick scott, you know, the president has been pushing him to run for senate and this makes him look good if after the meeting all of a sudden the policy changed for florida. a little politics -- a lot, i should say, probably, as well. >> renee, thank you very much. this is just what everyone needs, more of tom brady on your screen. a new sort of reality show coming from inside the home of tom brady, and this is everything we ever wanted and more. now you can join angie's list for free. which means everyone has access to our real reviews that we actually verify. and we can also verify that what goes down, [ splash, toilet flush ] doesn't always come back up. find a great plumber at angie's list. join today for free. all right. chairman of the senate judiciary committee, chuck grassley, furious that his democratic counterpart released a key transcript that he did not want out there from some of their testimony. let's listen in as manu raju just caught up with him. >> -- requested that the transcript be made public? >> uh, yeah. and i think he's probably a little surprised about some of the conclusions people are going to derive from it. i think if you -- if you want to know about, for instance, collusion with russia, all you've got to do is refer you to the twitter of browder, you know, as one example, to show how that was the case. >> so is jared kushner off the hook then? >> no. no, not at all. >> do you think you'll continue to be able to work with senator feinstein in a bipartisan way on this going forward? >> of course. >> reporter: will you bring glenn simpson to the committee, sir? [ inaudible ] >> all right, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, chuck grassley there, answering questions from manu raju. of course, dianne feinstein, the ranking member, the democrat, released the full transcript of the testimony that glenn simpson gave the committee. chuck grassley was not happy about that, but he used that as an opportunity to run down glenn simpson and fusion gps and criticize the dossier and the idea of russian meddling. >> and interestingly, he did say, when they asked, can you work with dianne feinstein still, he said, of course. but others on the committee have said, this essentially ends their investigation, their cooperation. we'll see. >> we shall see. all right, just two days ago, he was the unknown backup. now alabama's freshman quarterback is a superstar. >> andy scholes has more on the bleacher report. good morning. >> hey, guys, tua tagovailoa has a very bright future. tua hadn't played a meaningful snap all season before he became the hero of the national champion gameship the hero of the national champion gamesh games. so now that he's an alabama legend, what's changed for tua? >> i would say the only thing that's changed is the followers on social media. aside from that, nothing else has really changed. >> the 19-year-old staying humble. tua actually shared a very special moment with his parents after the big win. they moved from hawaii to alabama to watch their son play football and be closer to him. and tua, i'll tell you what, he actually went to the very same high school as former heisman trophy winner marcus mariota in hawaii. mariota has actually been a mentor for him since he was in the fourth grade. and mariota says he wasn't surprised at all by his performance on monday. >> he's a stud. he's a stud. he's the next guy coming up. it's nice to see someone like him to continue to carry the torch from back home. and hopefully he'll continue to take it to higher standards. >> and mariota has a big game this weekend himself, taking on tom brady and the patriots. brady releasing a trailer yesterday for a documentary series on his life called request "tom versus time." >> if you're going to compete against me, you better be willing to give up your life, because i'm giving up mine. when i see myself out there, i think, i still do this and do it better than i've ever been, so why should i stop? >> the 40-year-old giving us an inside look as his family life and how he remains the lest as he continues to get older. it's a six-part series on facebook. i can see berman getting his noteback out and watching it and taking notes about how to be more like tom brady. >> i've already asked for the day off. >> he'll play it on a loop in his office all morning and i'll have to listen to it all morning. >> all i can say is, thank you, andy scholes, but more importantly, thank you, tom brady. the white house is now slamming a federal judge's ruling that stops the administration from rolling back protections for d.r.e.a.m.ers. new developments ahead. with best in-class towing 2018 ford f-150. best in-class payload and best in-class torque the f-150 lineup has the capability to get big things to big places --bigtime. and things just got bigger. f-150 is now motor trend's 2018 truck of the year. this is the new 2018 ford f-150. it doesn't just raise the bar, pal. it is the bar. a trip back to the dthe doctor's office, mean just for a shot. but why go back there, when you can stay home, with neulasta onpro? 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location in southeast austin near the airport. this is a little bit different from one of the other locations, but there was a suspicious package reported at the facility just down the road. that is where investigators are looking, examining that package. we're waiting on an update on that. there has also been another location in the suburb of san antonio called shirts, texas which is about an hour's drive from where we are, and that is where one package exploded in the overnight hours injuring the worker at the delivery center there. it's minor injuries, we are told. we are also being told that at that same location, there was a second package that was discovered that did not detonate, which could also provide a great deal of information and clues for investigators as they continue to look through that scene as well. still very early on in both of these situations, so john, this is obviously a great deal of concern here across the central texas region, austin in particular, where the authorities say that explosion at that facility in shirts, texas, they suspect will be connected to the four explosions we've seen in austin so far. if that is indeed the case, that is five explosions. what is more troubling for investigators, john, the method by which these packages are being delivered, moved around, and the situations they're exploding is also changing. remember the one from sunday evening in austin was triggered by a trip wire which raised the level of concern for investigators who said that whoever is making this has a higher level of sophistication in being able to make these explosive devices and obviously being delivered and ending up in delivery facilities that we see here on this day is also troubling as well. so we're awaiting the latest press conference here from austin police at this situation in southeast austin near the airport, john. >> there are a lot of questions, as you know, about the methods, about the motive, about likely the methods. now back to today's shooting at a high school in great mills, maryland. joe is on the scene. joe, a briefing not long ago from the sheriff. what do we know about what just happened? >> we have very sketchy details and a lot of information, john, is soon to change. according to the police officer here at great mills, maryland, 7:30 eastern time, a shooter pro du person. what we know is shortly after that, a security officer here approached the gunman, engaged him, fired a shot and the gunman was shot. we're also told by authorities that the gunman is now dead. that's confirmation on the death of the gunman here. we also know the school was put under lockdown for a period, a number of students taken, obviously, from the scene while the investigation continues. we're also told that authorities are interviewing the school resource officer who fired the weapon and killed the suspect. back to you, john. >> joe is on the scene for us. appreciate your reporting. police promise another briefing from that shooting in maryland at the top of the hour. a blunt warning delivered today by a republican senator to a president who we know is mad as hell at the special counsel and who is adding more voices to his legal team. noting his anger must not cross the line. >> if the president fired robert mueller, do you think that would be an impeachable offense? >> probably so, if it's without cause, yeah. i can't think of a more upsetting moment in the rule of law than to have an investigator looking at a president's finances, what crimes may have been committed. i see no evidence of collusion that started the investigation without cause. >> the assumption is the president is just venting. he wouldn't dare fire mueller. but the fact they felt compelled to call the white house to check is proof they are more than a little worried. >> the special counsel should be free to follow through his investigation to its completion without interference, absolutely. i am confident that he'll be able to do that. i received assurances that his firing is not even under consideration. we have a system based on the rule of law in this country. we have a justice system and no one is above that justice system. >> we now know why the president is even more angry, and how that angry -- the special counsel want to ask the president, among other things, about the firing of fbi director james comey, about the role of the attorney in that process, and what the president knew about michael jackson flynn's contacts with russia during the campaign and the congressional transition. and about with me to share the reporting and the insights, cnn's donna bash. as this plays out, we have a better sense of, veteran republican, legal team in washington, d.c. will be joining the president's legal team. he says it's all an fbi conspiracy, to block the president. >> the president is said to be okay with it and what does this tell us about the president's mindset? if there are additions, will there be subtractions? >> there could be. if you go back to last year, the end of 2017. we talked many, many times about the fact that the president's legal team, their strategy was to. the investigation is almost over, don't worry, and their strategy was to try to keep him ca ca calm, the client, the president, is going to wake up and say, is my legal team not telling me the truth? or are they misleading me on purpose? that clearly happened because of so many things we've seen from b bob mueller and the questions they want to ask him if they actually get an interview done. one thing i will say is that the legal team the president has is largely based on the legal team that he could get. there are a couple of reasons. first of all, they're just lawyers who don't want to go near it, but also a lot of lawyers have conflicts in this town. they work for big firms that already have clients who are involved in it. >> will the president sit down with the special counsel? his lawyers smartly have been trying to get the special counsel to shift the focus of their questioning and lay out in advance what are the topics so we can prepare the president? maybe we can answer some of your questions in writing. we know one of the questions is why did the president fire james comey? how did that come about? what was his thinking? who did he talk to it about, including his attorney general? he was supposed to be recused following the russia investigation. so back in time here, the president wants to ask some questions to find out if the what we heard from the president and the white house is the truth. here is the president and the attorney general. >> regardless of the investigation, i was going to fire comey. knowing this, i said to myself, this trump-russia thing is a made-up story. >> i'm really happy i did not violate what i told this committee it was not based on the merits of the. >> there was a decision he was not entitled to announce. >> but the special counsel wants to put the president in the chair and go through every meeting, go through every conversation to get at, was this done for cause? was this done for ang early? ok okay. >> it seems to me the mindset question is the one that no matter how much, only president trump can tell the question what is he thinking? why did he do what he did? and if he's asked, why did you do this, he sometimes answers truthfully and sometimes he really is about to incriminate himself. no one can let that continue to be a problem for trump. you can see. is not one that has ever. . by simply asking him questions saying, what were you thing when you did x, y and. >>? >> we know they have recreated the day. they essentially know what you had for breakfast and if you got stopped in traffic on the way to work that day. so the president has lot of males, goes in something that the witnesses don't back i am up yeah, that actually might be ground for impeachment. the speaker of the house says, i checked in with the white house. they've assured me the president is not going to do this. what does that tell you about the level of worry among republicans that the president might be on the edge. >> the assurance is what they're getting from the white house is not that much. a lot of people in the white house don't know what he's going to do. i was really struck by that interview with the president recognizining what's happening this country for his own administration. the change over the weekend, the tweet about mueller, really the only difference with that is that he named mueller by name. but he's actually been, i think, very consistent in recognizing the threat, the cloud. to get lawyers. the answer is to be aggressive and not let the and the question is why won't the president move forward to protect the special counsel, and the answer is that's not really needed because he's not in peril. but this is now his base, and i think there might be blowback's. to the president, do not fire the special counsel, but why aren't they willing 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parkinson's specialist. there are treatment options that can help. my visitors should be the ones i want to see. welcome back. yes, there is some bipartisanship in your party. russia is coming back in november and steps need to be taken to combat midterm election meddling. if you judge politicians by what they say, there is also bipartisan agreement, as we just discussed a little bit, that president trump would trigger a crisis if he fires the special counsel robert mueller. >> i think the president ought to cool it a little bit because it would be the stupidest thing the president could do. yeah, he could do that, but he's not going to do that. and he shouldn't do that. >> how would republicans react if he fired mueller? >> i think there would be a total upheaval in the senate. >> a total upheaval in the senate? >> yeah. >> strong words, but so far just words. republicans are not willing to pass legislation protecting mueller. in a bipartisan rush to whack facebook for allowing millions of people's data and they used that data to sway voters. why not? what's the harm in protecting robert mueller, and in a separate issue, yes, facebook is rightly so, and mark zuckerberg should come himself, not hire lawyers, so talk about why they let people get this information. but why not talk to cambridge analytica and say, did you not know you got this information through dirty means and then you used it? >> i have to say the trump campaign said they didn't use -- >> they didn't use it in the general election when it mattered most. they said they were using rnc data. >> exactly. they used their team but not their data. >> when facebook asked you for your full legal name and your address and your phone number and what bands you like and what movies you watch, yes, it's a data harvesting operation. >> and it's not the first election, either. this is what the obama campaign was hailed for having done in 2012, which is actually literally finding everybody that voted for them in 2008 and trying to reach them, or get friends of those people on facebook to reach them. but to your question about why don't republican leaders want to do this, we found that when republicans do cross the president in some ways, whether it's the russia sanctions bill last year, they get the wrath of the president. >> they're afraid. >> this is a president who has very high approval ratings within the republican party. that has to matter. and this congress is very good, i think, at sort of sloughing off its responsibilities. >> you don't want to stir your base and divide your party and have internal family feuds when you see all the evidence the democrats are motivated to come out. however, does the title majority leader and speaker of the house more important than the 2020 election? >> on the other hand, the trump party cannot protect itself. if they want to fire the special counsel, there will be consequences. the question is will they follow through on these consequences? when they draw a line on trump, he moves close to it. if they want to fire mueller, they're saying it will trigger impeachment or something to that effect. it might not be within their power or they might not believe it is within their power to stop trump from putting the dominoes in motion to remove mueller. but it is within their power to do what they're supposed to do as a branch of government and react to that, if it actually ends up happening. >> i want to interrupt with a little bit of breaking news. the president's meeting with the crown prince of saudi arabia, he said he talked to vladimir putin about putin's election victory. let's go to capitol hill. leaders of the senate intelligence committee speaking about russia. >> we're now at the point where we have wrapped up one piece of our investigation, which deals with election security. i think it's safe to say that our team has done an unbelievably thorough job. they've spoken to nearly all e theed states. they want toand other intelligence security agencies. they've secured and analyzed countless intelligence products, both raw and finished assessments. let me say this with a great deal of confidence. it is clear the russian government was looking for the vulnerabilities in our election system and highlighted some of the key gaps. there is no evidence that any vote was changed. russia attempted to penetrate 21 states. we know they were successful in penetrating at least one voter database. the department of homeland security and the fbi alerted threats to the state. warnings do not protect any case. they addressed to i.t. professionals, but no clear reason for states to take this threat more seriously were given. russia was trying to undermine the confidence of our election system. we're here to express concerns but also competence in our state and local governments. i think what's important to understand is that tomorrow we will have an open hearing on election security. mark and i will be joining by four other members who are taking the lead on recommendations that we will post. i think they have, maybe in the last five minutes, gone out but they will be officially posted today. let me distinguish, we very much support state control of the election process. we think there are ways that the federal government can support those states, but clearly we've got to get some standards in place that assure every state that at the end of the day, they can certify their vote totals. so i think what members will share with you today is the recommendations that welco wil will come with. they're not recommendations that you should expect legislation from, it's not part of the investigation. jurisdiction within the congress is probably within the rules of the united states senate, and we will work very closely with them, sharing all the information we possibly can so they can process our recommendations. but also at the agencies that are most appropriate to make sure they bring the resources and the partnerships to the states and localities and the individuals that are single most important to the election process. let me just draw a few conclusions. we need to be more effective at deterring our adversarieadversa. the federal government should work with the states to truly secure assistance. that will possibly be in grant spending. the officials have made great strides, but they must do more. they offer cyber assistance, but we heard they did not have the resources to fill all the quotas. we will work with the appropriaters and advisers to fill that gap. we need to look at the equipment that actually records and reports votes. we all agree that all votes should have an audible paper trail. in 2015, five states used electronic machines with no paper trails. nine used at least some of these machines. we realize all this security costs money, and we want to make sure the federal government not only says we are a person, we are a partner, and i hope that may be expressed maybe as early as the spending bill. with that, let me turn to the vice president for any comments he may have. >> thank you, david. you have better eyesight and have to read off of this and i have to read off of this. thank you, members, for being here, and the way this committee has performed to date and the way i think we'll continue to perform. we're going to hear from four members who have worked actively on this security. but senator rubio also has tom many. i'm going to act with senator klobuchar in the time we have left here. i think the consensus we all came up with was we were all disappointed that states, federal government, and the department of homeland security. as the chairman has indicated, there were 21 states that were -- attempted to be an intervention, at least one state that was full hacking that got through the protections. . this information coming out, it actually took the department of homeland security nine months -- >> i'm going to drop out of capitol hill talking about election meddling. let's go to the president and the crown prince of saudi arabia. >> it's terrible. the bombings in austin are terrible. local, state and federal law enforcement working hand in hand to get to the bottom of it. this is obviously a very, very sick individual or maybe individuals. these are sick people, and we will get to the bottom of it. we will be very strong. we are searching what's going on in austin. a great place. a tremendous place. it is absolutely. not easy to find, but these are. i will say working with texas, working with local governments have been great, but we have to find this very sick person or people. thank you very much. [ inaudible question ] >> i had a call frwith presiden putin and congratulated him on his election victory. the call had also to do with the fact that we will probably get together in the not-too-distant future so that we can discuss arms, we can discuss the arms race. as you know, he made a statement that being in an arms race is not a great thing, and it was right after the election, one of the first statements he made, and we are spending 700 billion there are this year in our military, and a lot of it is that we are going to remain stronger than any other nation in the world by far. we had a very good call and i suspect that we'll probably be meeting in the not-too-distant future to discuss the arms race, which is getting out of control, but we will never allow anybody to have anything even close to what we have. and also to discuss ukraine and syria and north korea and various other things. i think probably we'll be seeing president putin in the not-too-distant future. [ inaudible question ] >> we're going to see what happens. the iran deal is coming up probably in another month or so and you're going to see what i do. but iran has not been treating that part of the world appropriately. a lot of bad things are happening in iran. the deal is coming up in one month and you will see what happens. [ inaudible question ] >> thank you very much, everybody. >> make your way out, please. let's go. >> the president of the united states in the oval office with the crown prince of saudi arabia. the last thing they talked about an interesting collision of events, if you will. we got to the oval office on capitol hill. they say russia is meddling this year as well. they want them to work with russ russia. the russian president, who the senators say is still trying to meddle in u.s. elections, and how they hope to get together soon, and of course the president, under any circumstances, won't have any discussions with the russian leader. he says physical tensions. i guess welcome to donald trump's washington. >> that introduction was unbelievable. >> you couldn't have scripted it any better way and i was thinking people at home are trying to fiddle with their screen. i was thinking, don't adjust your television set, those are democrats mixing with republicans talking about how to protect the voter election system this year from russia. which is important. it's very important that at least they can agree in a bipartisan way in the u.s. senate. the house, obviously s a different story, about identifying the problem, never mind finding the solution which is more difficult. one second later we hear from the president talking about how ladder mirror putin . saudi arabia as nervous as anybody, maybe. we know we're going to get a new secretary of state. what will we get when the deadline comes up for this president? will he rip it up? will he set new bars? what's he going to do? >> now that he doesn't have rex tillerson around, it seems more likely he'll get what he wants, which is rip up the pompeo deal. we'll see. trump has been frustrated by his advisers trying to pull him back, what he's campaigned of, and is people want him to get rid of it as much as he does. i think the defenses that might have been around trump holding him back from doing that are coming down one by one. >> is there a middle ground here? >> it's hard to find. the europeans have been basically planning for the day when donald trump withdraws the united states from the iran deal. you can go back to 2003 which took out iran's arch-nemesis in the region and point to that in recent history when they started to get moreau certificateive. >> europeans are planning for the day when you pull out. i think the odds are that on may 12 or earlier, hundreds say they're not going to blow off the sanctions. >> and the only one i think that the president will listen to is mr. jerry mattis. >> we'll get a test of the power play. h.r. mcmaster, security adviser, he wants to stay. remember the shelacking obama took eight years ago? 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down to 50%. again, republicans bleeding a key piece of their coalition. compared to 2010, among independents, republicans down 20 points. among women down 15 points. among younger voters, down 13 points. among whites who have a college degree down 16 points, and among whites without a college degree, 13 points. i could show you even more. just about every demographic group from the big one in 2010 and in 2016, republicans are going the wrong direction. they say, hey, we know the history. midterms are tough. we will deal with it. >> the party empowered the white house suffers grievous losses. president barack obama lost 63 house seats in 2010, the first midterm after his election. both have been reelected, but this president isn't looking at his reelection, he's looking at this particular cycle. we know that, but we also know that republicans, i assume they'll be running on tax cuts so they'll be bragging about the prosperity that's been brought to 4 million americans. >> it is her job. you have to tip your hat to her and she knows to be optimistic. when you talk to republicans after the 2018 results yesterday, a lot of the republicans think the house is already gone. when you look at so many pieces of their coalition, support is down. but you can't fix this problem because then you have another problem over here. what republicans will tell you is the president is problem number one and they can't fix that. if you're running the house statewide, you can't fix the president. >> i think they thought the tax cuts would be a boon for them. there was reason to think that because democrats thought how terrible it would be and a lot of people actually saw they were getting more money in their paychecks. they saw the ballot shrink. now that gap has grown again. democrats have the bigger lead now, more like what they had last december. what's the common denominator here? it's the president. it's his low approval ratings. kellyanne conway says this is what you would expect midterm of the president's term. >> i could have stayed there for an hour. if you look deep inside the "wall street journal" poll, the republican numbers are best in rural areas. that's where the safe republican seats are. anywhere there's traffic lights and strip malls, the ditch is even deeper. >> i talked to a senior republican who said, look, we need donald trump at a 55 or a 10. >> it also seems that the suburban voters are very sensitive to the environment around politics right now. it's not just about the economy. with a booming economy like this, trump should be doing much better, but it's everything around him. it's the chaos, the investigation, the twitter, the temperament. these suburban voters, many of them women, are revolting against that and that is almost an unfixable problem for republicans at this stage. they know trump is not going co change. >> donald trump won by playing up emotion and playing down policy. right now the democrats have wind at their back because they are playing up and playing to the emotion of people who are disgusted by donald trump and the policy, the tax cut, that the republicans passed and hoped would help them is being completely overshadowed. >> and the flip side of this, republicans are learning how to deal with this environment. talk about tax cuts if you want, but talk about how they created jobs here and put more money into the community. democrats have people coming out of the woodwork to run because this is like when obama ran for president in 2008. you know it's going to be a democratic year. come out. even if you think you can't beat hillary clinton. you have lopinski who is pro abortion. >> lopinski agrees with the president on too many issues. he voted against the dream act, voted against abortion. it's time to dump this trump democrat. >> ouch. how much of this is -- you have an emboldened, progressive movement that says we don't want anti-abortion democrats in the party. if you voted with trump on anything, tuesday comes after monday, and word gets to you -- and how much of it is just -- forgive me -- ambition. you realize this is a democratic year and you have old guys running and you just want to keep the job. >> it's both. it really is both. in this district in particular, it is inherently very liberal. i was talking to an illinois democrat who was reminding me that bernie sanders beat hillary clinton there pretty easily during the primary. so that just kind of shows you where the democratic inherently is and that lopinski has been there a long time and nobody has challenged him. nobody had the vision to challenge him. but it really does seem to be a fascinating question that we will look at in the data about what it means for the heart and soul of the party. >> you see diane feinstein in california, michael pablano in massachusetts. michael has a pretty good record but he's more progressive because people say this is the year. >> i think if democrats will be successful this year, they have to have candidates who fit the district. if you have a more liberal district and you'll probably end up with a different kancandidat. in places like that those democrats are going to be at risk, but if they can get conor lambs, moderates, back in these purple straits aates and purple districts, they can probably pull it off. miranda is running for office. k for heart attack or stroke. talk to your health care provider today about diabetic heart disease. and find out more at heartoftype2.com. your heart and type 2 diabetes. make the connection. gas, bloating, constipation and diarrhea can start in the colon and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. only phillips' colon health has this unique combination of probiotics. it helps replenish good bacteria. get four-in-one symptom defense. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. liberty did what? 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>> at the top of the show we add t the former solicitor kevin olson to his team. however, olson's firms says there are too many conflicts. >> he has to wash his hair. >> i shouldn't joke about it, but they're crying over it. look, at the beginning of the show, we said there are very specific reasons why the president has the lawyers he does have. one of them is that there are a lot of people in this town who are lawyered up. and they're lawyered up with people who work with big firms, and once you're representing somebody involved, it's very hard to take on a client with a conflict. >> he says he believes this is all an fbi plot to trap the president. i don't know if he believes that in his heart and soul. he's a former prosecutor and knows how it works. the president is somebody who can punch in the cable tv environment. what does that tell you about the courtroom environment? we'll see as it plays out. thanks for joining "inside politics" today. wolf is up after a quick break. have a great day. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you for joining us. breaking news today. another school shooting in maryland. the gunman wounded two students before the resource officer shot the shooter dead. it's not clear yet how. we'll go there shortly. stand by for that. also a new

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critical. monsoon conditions will be moving in adding torrential rain and a threat of more flash flooding to an already tense operation. the air inside the cave is a major concern, but the boys for now are said to be safe, and for the first time since being stranded two weeks ago, they are able to communicate with their families. asian correspondent jonathan miller is at the scene. jonathan, are the rescuers getting any closer to getting these boys out? >> reporter: i think they are, joe. the last hour has seen a torrential downpour here, which is a reminder of things to come with heavy monsoon rain forecast for the days ahead. they've got a very small window to get these boys out, but we understand that the situation inside the cave is being prepared, and in the words of the governor, the conditions are appropriate for evacuation. we think that it's pretty much everything is in place and they're ready to go. the situation is still fluid. there are things that could go wrong or could delay the situation. the boys still need to be medically checked over. there are final checks to make sure this incredibly risky rescue operation is at least as safe as they can make it. but expect it very soon. >> jonathan, give me some idea how open and available the authorities on the ground there have been with information going on particularly not only to the families but also to the news media? for example, would they tell us if they've already begun this rescue operation given the fact that we're told there's a very limited time line? >> well, it's a fascinating question, joe, because, yeah, you're right. it could be going ahead, even as we speak for all we know. this afternoon for the first time, they erected screens around the deavers' quarters leading up to the cave entrance. the media has been kept very separate. no, there isn't a huge amount of information out there. you know, in the past few days, we've been able to speak with divers themselves. they've been fairly open with the situation down there. they've been telling us about how dangerous it is down there, how difficult it is. the last time i spoke to a diver was overnight. i met four of them. they were -- they were pretty confident. they said the water levels had reduced significantly. and so although we're not getting much information, it's very much the sense it's imminent. >> you've met four of those divers you just said. do you have a sense of how many divers who are experienced are available on the scene to act as buddies, escorts if you will for those young men, trying to bring them out of the cave? >> reporter: yeah. there's two sofrts divers down there. one lot are the ones who've been ferrying in the oxygen canisters deep down into the cavern system to help back up in case something goes wrong and to make sure the oxygen levels stay high. ads you said in your introduction, they have fallen to dangerously low levels. those are volunteers who come from this region and abroad. there are thai navy s.e.a.l. officers. there was a tragedy the other day when one died down there. but these are guys who are highly trained. they're thais. they're the ones down with the boys. we understand there are three with them right now as well as a doctor and a medic. so they will be the ones escorting the boys out as buddies and will be helping them out all the way out through the subterranean submerged passageways before they can start wading the final mile and a half to get out. >> jonathan miller on the ground there. thanks so much. we'll be checking back on extraordinary human drama going on, the likes of which most of us have never seen before y. meanwhile officials are looking at storms. senior meteorologist allison chinchar. from your perspective as a meteorologist, what's the time line the rescuers are looking at given the timeline and the storms rolling in? >> i hate to sound too depress, but the time line has really run out. it ooh been the last few days where they've been lucky enough not to have too much rain. notice, july 2nd through july, they had no measurable rain, but the rain has started. you saw that from jonathan's live shots there. at times, it's coming down in torrential downpours. the problem is with all of this moisture coming back into the region, with that coming back. they're running out of time quickly. not only is it flowing into the cave system, but you have the chimneys, other areas the water comes in through. there's not going to be much time before the water starts to fill up again within the cave system. unfortunately we're looking at a lot of rain chances in the forecast. sunday, monday, and tuesday, an 80% chance of rain. and beyond that there are rain forecasts for the rest of the week. you have to understand this is the rainy season. this area likely to pick up an additional 2 to 4 inches. that may not sound like much, but you have to understand this is on top of what's already fallen over the past few weeks. >> wow. what a situation. thanks so much for that, alison chinch chinchar. parents reading a note from the coach and saying it's not your fault. this message was sent to the soccer coach. we as your sommer team members' parents believe in you and your spirit that you've been taking good care of our kids. we just want you to know this is not your fault. we all here don't blame you and just want you not to blame yourself. we all understand the situations that have happened and we're here supporting you. the next one reads we just want you to know we're waiting to have a birthday party with you, my son, so please take care of yourself and we'll celebrate together. don't be worry. we're all here together with your grandparents and cousins waiting for you. we love you. and then this one. i'm waiting for you here at the cave entrance, my brave son. i miss you. you're as strong and as patient a son as i believe. we believe you'll make it. we miss you, we love you. you are the only one for me. this rescue is both physically and emotionally draining for the rescue crews and the boys trapped inside. joining me now, clinical psychologist of oxford university jennifer wild. jennifer, the boys have already been inside the cave for two weeks. let's talk a little bit about the effects of that isolation and how it works on the mind. >> well, being trapped in a cave even for one night is absolutely terrifying, and being trapped without any information about whether or not you're going to get out is highly anxiety-provoking. they were found. they know that there is a rescue operation in play, so that will help reduce anxiety. they likely are unaware of the risks it will take to get them out. so, again, that can help the anxiety, as long as they can focus on -- that there is a rescue mission and they can get out and that they have a lot of help. but being trapped for two weeks is absolutely terrifying, especially at that age. >> jennifer, let's talk a little bit about hallucinations. there are reports these boys have been hearing sounds like children playing. what do you make of that? >> we know that oxygen levels have dropped in the cave, so this could have an impact on information processing. but we also know that in the dark, it is harder to see and so our other senses can feel as though they're enhanced. so it's possible that because of the drop in oxygen, because they're less able to see very well, that their hearing may be enhanced. it could also be a result of a change in their diet and regular eating as well as the result of anxiety. so certainly when some people develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress, one of the symptoms can be an auditory type of hallucination. >> now, let's talk a little bit about the situation for the rescue teams. how do they handle the mounting pressure to get these boys to safety, and, if you will, the question that's been on my mind, how do they select the first boy to go because it's so important to get a good start. how do you select that kid? how do you know which is the one you take first? do you with the weakest, the one you're most concerned about? do you go with the most competent swimmer? the bravest? the most courageous? how do you pick that person? >> i think they'll want to go with the person they perceive to be most likely to make it all the way out because that gives hope to the other children come behind them. i think they're more likely to take one of the stronger ones. think this is an incredibly scary mission for the experienced divers as well as the kids. it's a five-hour trek back out of the cave. if you marjs kids go swimming for half an hour or an hour, but they certainly don't go swimming for five hours nonstop in murky muddy waters at a fast speed with an oxygen mask. it's a night ning situation. so to some degree if they focus on it as being an adventure, they're getting a lot of messages from their parents. this create as lot of hope for the kids that they can have some confidence if they trust the divers, that they can get out safely. >> jennifer wild, thanks so much for that. insights on the people and the drama in thailand. we're following breaking news out of chicago. pro e testers have shut down a major interstate as par of an anti-gun violence march. now all five lines of interstate 94 have been blocked. cnn's ryan young is out with the protesters. what are you seeing right now? >> reporter: there's a message they want you to hear. if you look behind us, they want the community to understand they're standing up against violence. last year more than 100 people were shot during that weekend. the numbers are down so far this year, but sometimes you hear why are people protesting for what's going on in the community. protesters say, look, they don't always get the coverage they always want. they thought by shutting down the highway, they would get attention. that's what's happened. it stretched at over a mile at one point. northbound lanes shut down about 35 minutes ago. they were frustrated they couldn't get out. but that did happen. in fact, you saw the police chief marching with the protesters in lockstep. in july they were able to get 50 illegal guns off the streets and that's the kind of conversations people in the neighborhoods want to have. you can see the collections of people, different colors and nationalities, but definitely on the south side. they wand they want a rallying cry. >> the superintendent marching with the protesters? i assume they knew it was going to come off today. >> reporter: they thought they were never going to step out here. at first the state police said they were going the arrest protesters who came out here. you saw the superintendent of the police. they had a conversation. they decided the take to the street. think never had a confrontation between the officers and the protesters. they decided to open up the roadway. we saw some of the protesters high-fiving with the officers. they're frustrated about guns. they want to see more presence in the neighborhood. if you look over here, there are the officers. they're out of the way. it sort of worked out as a win/win for everyone. >> peaceful protest on interstate 94 in chicago over stopping gun violence. thanks so much for that, ryan in chicago. next, as mike pompeo celebrate as what he calls progress, the regime slamming president trump saying he needs an attitude check. what does this mean for kim jong-un's relationship with president trump. plus, raging wildfires. kills one and forcing hundreds to leave their homes. a live report comings up. head-clearing, body repairing, titempur-pedic sleep. purchase a tempur-luxe or tempur-breeze mattress today and enjoy $500 off... or a free adjustable base upgrade. experience the most highly recommended bed in america today. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com. ♪ ♪ jimmy's gotten used to his whole yup, he's gone noseblind. odors. he thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this... luckily for all your hard-to-wash fabrics... ...there's febreze fabric refresher. febreze doesn't just mask, it eliminates odors you've... ...gone noseblind to. and try febreze unstopables for fabric. with up to twice the fresh scent power, you'll want to try it... ...again and again and maybe just one more time. indulge in irresistible freshness. febreze unstopables. breathe happy. so let's promote our summer travel deal on choicehotels.com like this. surfs up. earn a $50 gift card when you stay just twice this summer. or, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com booking a flight doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go... for the best savings on flights, go to priceline. regrettable. that is the world north korea is using to describe talks with u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo. pompeo on the other hand used the word "progress" to describe two days of denuclearization talks with north korea. joining me now to discuss it is cnn global affairs analyst joseph eun. he's also a former special representative for north korean policy. welcome and thank you so much for coming in on a saturday. what do we make of the words north korea is using in this latest statement? >> i think this is bad diplomatic language, kind of rude if you ask me. what you heard mike pompeo say, progress, it's like the equivalent to diplomatic band-aid. north korea just took that band aide off, you know? >> is this part of the north korea playbook? are we right back where we started? >> that's a good question, joe. is this beginning of the end of what president trump started in singapore? i certainly hope not. we do not want to go back to fire and fury. we don't want to go back there. but i think what happened in singapore, expectations didn't meet. they got away. they thought something else was said. and i think mike pompeo gets an "a" for effort for doing all of this. he's gone to poing yang three times. he's met with his counterpart five times and still he comes back empty handed. >> what do you make of the fact that he did not meet with kim jong-un himself? >> that's a negative. he said, no, i'm not going to meet him. it with us dugly rude because mike pompeo brought a presidential letter, perhaps even a gift too. when you do that, you're completely expected to hand over the note and anything else the president gives you to the leader himself. >> do we even know what denuclearization means at this point? it doesn't seem to have been defined at all. >> yeah. it has not been defined, and that is the key issue. that is very much the issue. north korea is saying you've asked us to do all this, but what have you done in return? to me we need to fix what's going on in washington. north koreans are hearing many, many messages and they're mixed. they're hearing from bolton, well, they could denuclearize within one year if they wanted to. they're hearing from pompeo this has to go slow, they need more time. they need to hear a unified voice, and they're not hearing that. >> one of the questions that always strikes me is what would it take to make north korea feel safe enough to seriously move down the road of denuclearization? do we have some sense of what it would take to actually get there as opposed to talking about it and going back and forth and deciding we're not going to go anywhere. >> that is the most difficult question. that is a question that i certainly don't know. i mean i think what they want is a guarantee that the regime would survive, that kim jong-un would survive. and so this is what president trump told kim jong-un. you know, he told him publicly that we guarantee you, you and your family will be safe and they will survive. but, again, how can we guarantee that? what happens -- it's been said many times, like libya's gadhafi was gotten rid of by his own people. can we stop that? i don't know. >> joseph yun, thank you so much. thanks for coming in on a saturday. >> thank you very much. coming up next, demands from the legal team. why president trump will not meet with the special counsel on the russian probe unless he has proof that he's committed a crime. the potential standoff coming up next. the kids get the unlimited they need. go mix and match! 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"the new york times" says he's prepared to lay out plans. the legal team now insisting the special counsel must prove it has evidence of trump committing a crime and that his testimony is crucial to ending the probe before any sitdowns will happen. cnn's white house correspondent boris sanchez joins us live now from berkeley heights, new jersey, at president trump's golf resort for the weekend. we've spent some time out there before, boris. so give us an idea. what can you tell us? >> reporter: hey, there, joe. yeah, rudy giuliani telling "the new york times" he does not believe robert mueller is going to comply with these interview demands. this essentially could set the white house up for a legal fight with special counsel if robert mueller issues a subpoena to try to force the president to comply with an interview and the president challenges it. it appears the white house prefers this over having the president testify. as you know, rudy giuliani is asking special counsel to provide evidence to show that president trump did something all legal before he has to sit down with that interview with robert mueller. here's the exact quote from rudy giuliani. he tells the new york times, quote, if they can come to us and show us the basis that it's legitimate and they have uncovered something, we can go from there and assess their objectivity. further, rudy giuliani made clear to "the new york times" that part of the reason that the white house and the legal team continue to take this combative stance against the special counsel is partly because of public opinion. it's something that giuliani has said before even on cnn, this idea that if they go after the special counsel, it will sway republican opinion, keep the republicans in power in the house of representatives, and it will help president trump avoid impeevement. here's more from rudy giuliani to "the new york times," quote, nobody is going to consider impoochbment if public opinion has concluded. it's an unfair investigation and that's why public opinion is so important. one last note, john. they have been apparently laying the groundwork, requesting an interview with chief of staff john kelly. the white house legal team has started pushing back on that, making more and more demands, john. >> thanks so much, boris. that sure sounds like a delay strategy to me. joining to discuss, cnn political analyst matt visor, amy and senior analyst areva. let's start with you. is there anything to the president saying he's not going to sit down with this? >> he has right to sit down with the special prosecutor or not and follow the advice of counsel. but what we're hearing from rudy giuliani, he's being very transparent. he's saying, look, we're going to fight this in the court of public opinion and if we can sway them into thinking it's not being conducted in a fair manner, we can win. no republican congress is going to vote to impeach trump. but the demands his legal team is making, they know they're outrageous. so i don't think the president or his team has any intention of ever sitting down with the special counsel and this is more delay, delay, deflect, deflect from trump and his legal team. >> boris made good point there that if you can push this thing past the election this year, perhaps they're clear. president trump has sarksd of course, in the past he's not only willing to sit down with mueller but that he wants to do the interview. now, this, of course, flies in the fact of actually what we're seeing here. so, amy, i want to ask you. do you think the president ant his legal team are on the same page or sit one person saying one thing and another person saying something else in order to lead public opinion in a certain way? >> i think in the paflt they were all over the place, but i think they agree the delay tactic is working. and after all they see these polls lately have reflected that. people are tired of the muller investigation. they waj it wrap up. you have people on the hill saying that as well. you had trey gowdy, the republican, telling rosenstein a couple of days ago this is dividing the country and they needed to wrap this up very quickly. i think as long as they keep saying it, public opinion is going to work out for them. >> on the merits of the delay, people will say the president wins if he push this past the midterm election, but couldn't there be a downside too? >> yes. there is a downside that this continues. but i do think that their strategy is to continue to le jij miez the investigation. it's an increase of 14% -- 14 pointss from january. >> all right. muller's team says there is a trump connection. they say plans to prove evidence that banking evidence helped manafort obtain something like $16 million while the banker saw a roll in the trump campaign. amy, what's your thought on this development? >> it's not good for the white house. this is the president. this was the campaign. and if they can tie money that was linked to the campaign to this guy, you know and he eventually ended up working for the campaign, that doesn't look good to him. so i don't think this is good news for them. i think they want to avoid this topic as much as possible. >> areva, they're talking about venues, a by furcation. what is this going to mean for the future and direction of the man a fort/russian probe? >> they've made several gums as to why the venue should be changed. to move it from the court to about four hours away from that court. one of the claims is in the last presidential election that lexa voters went two for one with hillary clinton and there's no way you could find impartial jurors this that most of them voted for hillary clinton. nobody is going to accept that as a legitimate argument. that would mean defendants all over this country, their trials would have to be moved based on how jurors would be voted. i think that's a nonstarter. the claim that this is a high bub listy case, there's lots of them. this is not going to change the national spotlight on this kachls i don't think they're going get the change the venue. they're asking the judge to hold on it. i think this trial moves forward on juul 25th and man a 40s is going to have to decide either he's going to cooperate with probl prosecutors, or he's going to face serious jail time if convicted of these crimes. >> all right. areva, jamie, matt, thanks so much for that. we'll see you again soon. >> thanks. >> temperatures soaring into the triple digits added to soars wintdss. a state of emergency is in effect as hundreds of residents are forced to evacuate. we'll get the latest next. but first a sneak peek at the cnn original series, "the 2000s." ♪ >> you don't need to call it a guilty pleasure. just call it a pleasure. it's something you love watching. great tv comes in many forms. >> it was more cinematic looking. >> it was a whole new level on television. >> "american idol" reunited the family audience in front of the tv. >> there's literally a reality show. at least i'm not that. >> dwhie we have to fight? 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who else might have been a target? >> those are the primary groups of force? likely it was a local force hosting local country forces there in afghanistan. again, that i do this all over the country, particularly in the south. it took place in southern afghanistan where taliban is present. there's a row bufts military presence helping them, much schaller than it was when the u.s. was in a direct combat role. so u.s. casualties are much more rare. this is the third combat death in 2018. as you see, u.s. force casualties have gone down, but you do see this where the u.s. is very much in harm's way. >> one of the things we don't do enough of is when we say advisers on the ground in afghanistan, what are they advising? what specifically are they doing in support of the afghan troops? >> there's a wide range of things they're doing. you have elite special forces-type unitses going in and participating in joint operations with afternoon begans against senior terrorist targets, but there are logistics, things of that nature. with don't know what type of role these servicemembers were performing when they came under attack. all across you have them working closely with their counterparts, and often in cases sharing meals anze living quarters together. there is a closeness, and they're on a lookout for these types of attacks. it's rare there is one, but it estill a threat. >> i imagine we can't pinpoint exactly where it happened. >> that's right. we only know southern afghanistan where the taliban has a large presence and u.s. forces arrively working with afghan troops to fight back on that. >> ryan browne, thanks so much for that. we're looking at wildfires in california. raging fires have killed at least one person. temperatures in triple digits fueling strong winds and fires across the state making it difficult for firefighters to get control of the situation. and in santa barbara county, a state of emergency as thousands have been forced to evacuate. sara sidner is there. sara, how are local officials describing the situation on the ground? >> reporter: highly unusual because of the temperatures and because of the fierce sundown or winds. they're notorious for creating some of the worst or most devastating fires here. unfortunately go lina, a unique tightly knit community, firefighters are battling this. it happened right in the middle of a heavily housed area. so lots of homes here. at least 20 structures have been destroyed. you can see what firefighters are doing. they're trying to completely knock out every ember. it's so dry and so hot, you hear helicopters dumping water over some of these hot spots. it's not a huge fire, but it's devastating because it happened to spark right in the middle of a residential area. more than 2,000 people evacuated from this area. what's even more devastating, this is the same area, same county, santa barbara county, where thousands of people and thousands of acres burned in december. some of the first fires in recorded history in california, the largest in history, the thomas fire. many have been suffered from post-traumatic distress syndrome. they've had to evacuate several times. they go back to evacuation centers and family and friends. there are some people who do not realized just yet their homes have been last. it's not the only fire that is happening right now. there are fires burning all over the west. you've hear of an area that burned where there are far fewer homes. one person has been killed. and we should mention as you just did, there is a state of emergency. if you'll come over here with me, this is what firefighters have been able to salvage from this home. just a few things from the garage. and it really gives you an idea what happens here in this particular neighborhood. people love riding their bikes, and they love go out in the freezing waters of the pacific here in santa barbara county for naubs here, people have been praising these firefighters because they have saved so many structured, but not this one. this one is a total loss. joy? 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>> reporter: yeah, john -- joe, we're starting to see some of those parents get out on bond in their asylum cases, and the chances of the government making that 26th deadline doesn't seem very hopeful given the process that they seem to want these parents to go through. so these are people who crossed the last month or so. they've been separated from their kids for a month, most of them a little over a month. most of them have had at least one phone call, one individual hadn't talked to his son at all. some of them are in texas. others are in other parts of the country. the problem for these individuals is that they get out of detention center, the -- all their documentation that they had with them was taken by department of homeland security and remains with them. they don't have the means, the ability to fill out and follow the process that hhs, the health and human services, that now has custody of their children, that they want. hhs, it seems, is treating these adults, these parents, as though they are strangers to their own kids. they're treating the kids as though they were unaccompanied minors as they say, that they crossed the border alone, and these adults now have to prove that they are their kids so there's a 32-page form. it involves a lot of documentation that these individuals now don't have, and it will take weeks, if not months, for these individuals to not only fill out that paperwork but then get to the place where their kids are and then make that reunion happen. it's going to be very, very difficult to make this happen by that 26th deadline. it is amazing to see the breadth of this. some of these parents bonding out on their asylum process. some of them have been deported. some of the kids have been deported without their parents. some of the parents have been released and hhs now saying that while it knows where a lot of the parents are, it doesn't know where some of the parents are, so even those under 5s, that deadline coming up on tuesday, it is not sure that it can make that deadline either. the government has said to us all along that they had a process, now that parents are getting out, it's clear there doesn't seem to be a process at all. >> a 32-page document, i mean, it sounds that you're making the case there for overly cumbersome bureaucracy, but thanks so much for that, miguel marquez. we will get back to that at a later time. we have much coming ahead on "newsroom" and its starts right after a quick break. gets the und she needs, dad gets the unlimited he needs, the kids get the unlimited they need. go mix and match! 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