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Noticed in contrast. i think if the former vice president thought it would be an easy ride into the general election, he is in for something else. look at what happened just this week. he flip flomd 09 hyde amendment, he had to defend his crime bill, or he was confronted about it, and he defended it. s.e., how significant is a week like this? >> it could be determinesing. to joels point, joe biden has not put in the time that other candidates have, with the reporters, with the press, with reta...

>> yeah, rained fire, 19 candidates, 19 peaches, all in one day. it will be interesting to see what the headlines are coming out of there. thank you for joining us. >> yeah. candidate peet buttigieg was how can a nominee come out unscathed. >> the good news i have is i dont even view us as having opponents as much as competitors. i would be surprised the different candidates as these cattle calls pick up, well get to know each other better and better. we might as well carpool. i want to brin...

Blue states, texas can move. i dont know if it will move this cycle, but the trendlines certainly work in their favor. ill say this about what democrats are facing, and with regards to the president. president trumps cracks are not with his base, in my opinion. theyre with moderates and independents. thats where he won last time. he got those folks to come over. the presidents base will always be with him. its the people in the middle that cant hold on to this time. >> thank you both. join s.e. ...