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alliance, and its good for sweden and turkey and all of nato and the baltic region. >> but the big topic of discussion at this high stakes summit is the war in ukraine. ukraine wants a path to nato membership, but the u.s. and other countries are reluctant to do so while the war is still raging. looking at this is josh letterman, and also joining us, jim townsend, former deputy assistant secretary of defense for nato. and a former deputy assistant second of defense. how did this happen...

Turkey is taking such a major role in the issue of nato, for example, does this whitewash turkeys issues, like, for example, in cyprus and how they have been increasing their bases in northern iraq and their fight against the kurds, and they are going into northern iraq more and more. do all of these issues kind of go away now because of turkeys role in letting sweden into nato? >> well, josé theres a linkage to ukraine. the turkish president also said very clearly before he spoke out on sweden...