As you know, kaitlan, as well, if we do not deal with debt limit in the way that congress has dealt with it 78 times since 1960, it could trigger a recession, we could lose millions of jobs. here is what is important to remember. while they are sounding head coachful they are very far apart when it comes to the policy aspect of this. she said that the president will continue talks while he is in japan. he is going to be meeting with the same congressional leaders once he returns from his trip. ken buck was asked yesterday about a possible u.s. default if congress fails to reach a debt ceiling agreement. listen to his answer. i don t know what a default looks like because we have never been there before. does it happen slowly over time and within day two or three america we pass a debt ceiling? i don t think that it is the end of the world to default. that doesn t mean i am encouraging a default in any way, shape or form. here with us chief business
Testify. that creates problems from the get go there. as kaitlan noted, in fighting in trump s legal circles is nothing new. when we see a trump legal team formed assume that s not gonna be the team in place when the case comes to resolution here. you know, this classified documents case special the potential for an obstruction of justice charge here, is one of the most serious investigations that the former president is facing. so it s not a great day when you have to shake up your legal team for the client if indeed it is as serious a case as we believe this could be. yeah, we will see what happens there. also, david, i know you were watching the races that were happening last night. we saw daniel cameron the attorney general in kentucky win the republican nomination up against the democratic governor andy beshear. this will be one of the most closely watched gubernatorial races this year. what did you make of that?
This is what he said. as to who is gonna try the case, i know that joe has certain potential conflict issues given his prior contacts with stormy daniels. so who is the right attorney to take it to trial is something that the client will have to decide. yeah. that didn t go over well. i think the other thing to consider is that trump has been very unhappy with all the investigations into him privately, especially the documents investigation because he has paid a lot of attorneys a lot of money and been asking people privately why is this still going on. obviously, it s complicated. but it is notable that tim parlatore is leaving his legal team. he was on that case and testified before the grand jury. let s talk about this news that kaitlan brouge be with our political director and also the host of the cnn political briefing podcast. what s your take, david? first of all, it s an awkward thing when you are the legal representation and also a witness in the case that has to
Ho monitoring what s happening in south carolina. it is so important to remind viewers this was because a democrat who voted for abortion access previously then switched and gave republicans that super majority that allowed them to override that veto. that s right, kaitlan. and that democrat, that former democrat now republican, did vote for that veto override last night. she also voted for the bill just about two weeks ago. democrats have talked about just how quickly this unfolded in north carolina. 15 days ago is when bill dropped in the middle of the night. it s now vetoed and overridden and there is not much they can do, democrats, in terms of this. after that veto override vote happened it is law in nrk. democrats say they are going to thak this on the campaign trail that they feel there is enough in that law that perhaps tpeopl don t know about, they can make