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Affectionate first couples and this seems to be a sign that, you know, they live two very separate lives and she doesnt live with her husband, which weve never seen before. she doesnt live in washington. >> thats an interesting point, because, you know, kate a.b., she said that before, you cant change people. we are both separate people, we have our own independence. perhaps thats what we saw on display? >> yeah. i think so. i think whats interesting about the personalities, we saw -- we learned...

Brouwer. i will call you cate a.b., because we have another cate, co-author of cnn politics cover line, kate ben net. good to see both of you ladies. kate a.b., we start with that video, a lot of wonderful moments for the first lady and she kind of reviewed some of that during her speech, her remarks there in italy, but this moment, this video that keeps going, you know, that has gone viral, what was happening there, did he nudge her off the red carpet and she was like forget it, i got it, i don...

Nice, light moment between them. >> and then kate a.b. -- kate, you mentioned jackie o., kate. everyone thinks about the style of a first lady, references with michele obama known for wearing designers who werent necessarily on the big stage, but then as soon as she wore them they became hot designers. and this first lady, who is using very established designers, dolce & gabbana, with that jacket on the far left and, of course, it has a big price point there, but the michael kors, what do you re...

Held hands a number of times, even today she gave him a kiss before he spoke and spoke and he had to wipe the lipstick off his cheek. >> so the dynamic of husband and wife is interesting. this is a couple as kate said we havent seen before together. >> yeah. and then, you know, kate a.b., what do we think about, you know, her catholicism. she gets a chance to meet the pope that moment there, and then a little joke about the [ inaudible ] that she likes to feed him or dessert or bread? >> its swe...