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Is not a civil case where you can skip out as he did in the e. jean carroll case but theres going to be every month from now until november, either primaries, debates, conventions or actual ballots being cast, and thats why doj is in a bind and by the way, i dont even think about 60 or 90 day rule really applies because the concern is you cant do it too close to an election. donald trump gets tried in lets say february of 2024, people are still going to remember that come november when ballots a...

That is when white house officials plan to get more information about the entirety of the process, anderson. >> phil mattingly. appreciate that -- former deputy assistant attorney general john woo. -- david urban, -- former president, also cnn senior legal analyst cyst -- elie honig. you heard, elie what the president had to say about being surprised by this documents. what do you make of this? >> so, those documents comments go right to the most important legal issue in this whole case. did joe...

And they are stored in a competitive mental eyes facility like a -- similarly the right vice president is wrong. you have classified documents, shocking gambling, in casablanca i dont know how they got there, either you told somebody to take them there or you took them there yourself, your point earlier, how can you prove knowledge here? what are, you going to ask the fight president did you take it? why does joe biden get a pass in a presumption ofs innocence and trump didnt get one? i dont see...

Text messages. but once the flood gate opens and the things that he didnt not know -- he knew the answer to all of those questions, he invoked privilege. now doj knows the answers to all of those questions. >> thats exactly right, nicole. i mean you reminding us what that testimony -- im sure that prosecutors reviewed it as well before they got into the room with cipollone. there were lots of other parts of testimony that we heard from other parts of trumps world inside the white house about thi...

To the 11th circuit and that does not apply under these circumstances. is that the way you read it? >> right. first of all, you have a full appellate court, circuit court. you only have several of them at a time that listen to cases in order to expedite review of matters. as opposed to waiting for everyone to hear a matter, they have different three-judge panels to review different cases. this is one such issue. if an en banc decision was issued, they want to go to the entirety of the circumstit...

So like i said, this really hasnt been a good day for donald trump on the legal front, and the monster civil fraud lawsuit against him by letitia james may be what he cares about the most because she als that the trump organization, the company that he put his name on is a giant fraud. i want to bring in meeichael cohen, author of the upcoming book "revenge, how donald trump weaponized the department of justice against his critics" and host of the mea culpa podcast. you tried to tell us. >> i di...

Blah, so on, so on and so on. so what impact does the doj appeal have on what the special master is deciding now? >> well, its limiting now. you know that tina turner song "whats love got to do with it," don? now what did those classified documents have to do with your discussion about what might be privileged. thats essentially what the appeals court said. youve got these 100 documents that are about classified materials, have these various labels on them that say, look, youre not supposed to l...

Doing. but what she at least appeared to be doing was saying, okay, this investigation the doj is doing, you are not going to have access to these documents, but the damage assessment, this intel damage assessment about hey, with these documents being floated out there, how much damage was done, that could continue. now doj is coming back and saying, actually, no it cant. thats not how it works, and it has actually stalled it. is that, you know, believable point, does that make sense to you that...

Guess what, highly classified information, we need to get the fbi involved. trumps team says please dont because we object on executive privilege. archives says we disagree. now doj gets involved, now we are into june this past summer where doj and investigators start going down to mar-a-lago, meeting with trumps teams and finally serve a subpoena which is the easy way to do things, give us the rest of the documents. they get more documents but still not all and only then, two and a half weeks a...