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Of course donald trump, who has said if and when isis targets the vatican, which he called the ultimate trophy there youre going to have somebody like pope francis and im paraphrasing here, in the words of the president, you are going to have somebody like pope francis wishing that donald trump was president. >> well, that is because donald trump wants to make us believe that all refugees are potential terrorists. and that was the context in which he made that remark. now isis, the so-called isl...

The guess the big-picture question to you is, hes done this before, right? before the intelligence services come out and are definitive, even when everyone knows thats probably the way its going to go but they dont have the facts yet, he will come out and say it. is that better to be definitive, use the word "islamic terror," is that more or less effective than waiting and following the intelligence community? >> well, sometimes we need to do both. i mean, what is terrorism? we always thought th...

Director for criminal investigative division. and paul cruickshank, our terror analyst. i have a picture of the truck im going to show. first, paul, youve been talking to your sources. what have you learned about this attack? >> erin, theyre investigating this as a terrorist attack but have not yet made that determination that it, indeed, was, a terrorist attack. as officials look at whats played out in the last few hours in per lyberlin, they see the similarities with the nice attack in the sum...

Over the truck or they, or he, had carjacked or truckjacked the truck and its a legitimate load. poland is not a terrorism hotbed. i think its highly likely that this was a hijacking situation. and i think it shows how adaptable these terrorist organizations and their followers are. cant get into a venue on foot, you kill them with a truck. cant get inside the airport perimeter, you set off your bombs outside the perimeter. theyre constantly adapting. this is becoming a trend. >> and phil, you k...

And al qaeda in his thoughts. >> so on that, on that point, the state department was asked if this was an act of terrorism and the spokesperson, john kirby, said "we need to let the investigation run its course." donald trump, of course, put out a statement saying the ambassador was assassinated by a "radical islamic terrorist." did trump go too far on this? we dont know the motive and, of course, he said "remember aleppo" which could mean that he is angry at russia for killing civilians which w...

Is assassinated. that individual, in my view, might as well have been protesting the humanitarian disaster in aleppo as aligning with isis. i think its way too early to figure out what we got here. we dont have facts yet. >> all right. thanks very much to all three of you. were going to be talking more about this because this story is unbelievable, brazen. in the middle of an art gallery, an assassination on camera. a russian diplomat assassinated in cold blood. all of this on video. were going ...

Far. that may change in the hours ahead. what isis have been calling on their recruits to do as well as launch these kind of truck attacks is actually leave some kind of note, some kind of claim of responsibility behind so that they attach this to some kind of a terrorist group. if german officials have found something like that, they have certainly not revealed that yet to the public. >> phil, theres a lot of questions here because you heard fred pleitgens reporting, they found a man, a body in...

>> im curious when you say its too soon to say, but you do see some of the signs. >> right. >> do you think trump putting out a statement saying that this was a radical islamic terrorist, should he have done that as the president-elect? >> look, i -- you know, i think we can -- we tend to overreact to these quick statements and i think lets not make too much about it. obviously, it was a shocking act. obviously, in some sense, it was terrorism. >> yes. >> the innocent killing of a civilian, we s...

Publicized. so these are various religious sects persecuted by kaed aal qad now isis. its a beautiful community. they have been there for thousands of years. there are very strong people as you saw. yes, they will return home. they will been persecuted in the past as have others throughout the middle east. coptic christians, all the ve e various blends have seen this persecution and all they want to do is go home and practice hair religion. >> they dont want to come to the united states, they de...

These flags to isis and, you know, this is a large group of people that networked to each other. the people that coordinated charlie hebdo was involved in the attack of the u.s. embassy in 2001. they went to jail six years, got out, went back to work as originally al qaeda, now isis. there is a lot of cells out there. we dont know them all. >> the french president hollande will be in washington on tuesday meeting with president obama. he says hes coming to washington to form a new coalition to g...