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in atlanta? why is there so much violent crime? people are afraid to go outside to buy local bread and all these other wild claims essentially saying fani willis, the district attorney, should not be prosecuting him given that. what's your response when you hear something like that? >> fani willis was elected district attorney to do just what she's doing today. and it's not just donald trump and his intererage. there's a popular rapper, young thug, many popular rappers. so she's not discriminating. if she sees that a crime or thinks that a crime has been committed, then she's going to pursue a prosecution. and the thing that people have to remember she's not an administrator. she's not a pencil, paper-pusher. fani willis worked in the district attorney's office as a senior district attorney trying some of the most notorious cases
and i think that the harder they try and intimidate her, the more they try and intimidate her, i think the more she's going to dig in. she's not going to be easily intimidated. she has dealt with bigger and badder for sure. she prosecutes murderers and rapists and really the worst of those amongst us. so this effort to intimidate her, she's not going to get flustered. when you see her looking very stoic in front of the camera, that's not an act. >> reporter: i should note from watching here this is trump's plane on the tarmac. the busiest airport in the world waiting to take off. it doesn't get the priority it used to when he was air force one, and did clear the tarmac to take off. speaking of fani willis what you're referencing is not just coming from trump and his inner circle but what he said from his people, and we saw supporters
you have to wait overnight in the fulton county jail. you're given a bond the next day after your first appearance hearing. those are the cases or that's what i used to preside over as i would sit out here as a judge. and then hopefully you are granted a bond if you are a defendant and then you are processed out. but it usually takes several hours if not a day or so to get a defendant processed out. >> reporter: and mark meadows is one of -- i mean trump's former chief of staff who surrendered, he's trying to push this. he has a hearing monday trying to get it moved from state court to federal court, and he was essentially arguing i shouldn't have to meet that deadline from tomorrow, they pushed back on that saying fani willis' argument when she responded was i've already given you two weeks as a courtesy saying that's more than what a typical defendant would get. >> and that's accurate. for those who have not turned
atlanta? why is there so much violent crime? people are afraid to go outside and buy a loaf of bread. all of these wild claims. essentially saying, funny well as, the district attorney should not be prosecuting him. given that. what is your response when you hear something like that? >> funny well as was elected district attorney to do just what she was doing today. and it's not just donald trump and his his entourage that fani willis prosecutor every single day. it there is a big trial going on in the fulton county courthouse. a rapper, young thug, and many other popular rappers. she's not discriminating. if you think that a crime has been committed, then she is going to pursue that. and people after a member, she is not an administrator. she is not a pencil paper pusher. fani willis worked in the district attorney office. as a senior district attorney. trying some of the most
call with former president trump and the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. that appears to be what the district attorney really wants to focus on, based on the witnesses she might call. that's going to be the crux of her case to try to keep this in state court. but, again, he's not the only one who is trying to make this argument. jeffrey clark also has a hearing scheduled for this and others, including trump and giuliani, have all said they're going to try this too. >> just game it out for us. let's imagine that the judge on monday and the future, any other judges who want this to be heard in federal court instead of on the state level, let's say that the judge disagrees with them. does this get appealed all the way up to the u.s. supreme court? is that where this is headed ultimately? >> it's certainly possible. i mean, these are unique questions. i would expect someone, particularly like mark meadows, who has one of the best legal teams in this entire group of people, and he also appears to have the resources to file a lot
out here earlier who when they saw security lining up were chanting lock her up and chanting her name. >> when i pulled up they thought i was fani and started chanting at me as well. and just walking through the crowd there was a lot of hatred out here. >> reporter: they thought you were fani willis? >> they thought i was fani willis. imagine that. a lot of hatred and really bad energy out here, but, you know, this is -- when you sign up for public service you don't get to pick and choose your good days and your bad days. i have full confidence in sheriff labat. sheriff labat was actually the corrections chief for atlanta when i was mayor, so i know them both very well. i saw sheriff labat just yesterday. he's doing great. you know, there are tough days that come with these jobs. i don't think that anybody wants to be subjected to threats, but that being said it's part of the job. and if we give into that, then
their votes be counted, that there will be a penalty to be paid. >> and what i've been talking about, and reporting throughout the days that trump's new attorney that he met when he got here just an hour ago, i know you know him and you know of him, he's a renowned criminal defense attorney here. but given what you know about him, given what you know about fani willis. do you think she has an airtight case here? >> i would put fani against anyone, on any given day. i have seen them when some, i've seen them lose some. i wouldn't be surprised if there is not an attempt to negotiate a plea. he represents a lot of high-profile people, obviously, but he does not have a flawless record. and fani is a darn good attorney. so if fani it is putting the escapes up. i think everyone should bring the a game to the table. >> how do you think she is
and i think that the harder that they tried to intimidate her, the more they try to intimidate, or i think the more that she is going to try to dig in. she is not going to be easily intimidated. she has dealt with bigger and better. for sure. she prosecutes murderers, and, and really the worst of those amongst us. this effort to intimidate her, she is not going to be flustered. when you see her looking very stoic beyond the camera, that is not an act. >> what are the concerns to officials like her? as you know for watching her, this is trump's claim on the tarmac. at this point in the world waiting to take off. it's the primary issue an air force run. they would clear the time act to take off. we were watching him. speaking of fani willis. and given that you know her. it's not just coming from trump in the inner circle. it's what he says for certain people. and we saw the supporters of
georgia has a strict city trial law that says of the defendant wants to be tried quickly, he has a right to be a charged with what amounts to this case by november of this year. 2023, not 2024. the trial has to start by then. and the dea has agreed to this, and the judge has agreed to, this now the question is, will any of the other defendants be pulled forward to have a trial that quickly? the dea, fani willis, has said that i am ready to try all 19 of them. in late october, 2023. the problem though is she cannot force people who do not want a speedy trial, she cannot force defendants who do not want a speedy trial. >> the former president doesn't want a speedy trial? >> exactly, he wants the slowest trial properly. and we're gonna have at least two separate trials, maybe more. and the tactical advantages for the later trials. because you get to see the governments hold case. you get to see the witnesses take the stand, you get to see cross-examination. what worked, what did not. so it is a very important move
i was trained if a judge said when you want to go to trial i would say tomorrow on all of them, and that's what he shaz said. she took a long time. one of the criticisms, i think va valid criticisms is this took 2 1/2 years for fani willis to investigate and bring the charges. and i have to presume she's competent, and all indications are she's confident she's ready to go in just this scenario. >> one thing i learned a second ago is how much time. i didn't realize he had to be in the courts for all these different hearings. hanging out with all these lawyers i learn so much more. including van, i found out you were a lawyer. how do you campaign? do you have an extra 30 minutes a day? >> to be clear you have to be there for your trial some of the hearings. some of the intermediate hearings just about the evidence and motions, that the defendant can waive, can give up his physical appearance. >> the former president is on the plane waiting to take off. let's go back to kaitlan collins