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prosecutor. thank you so much for being with us this morning. look, i want to hang on to that cheney statement for one minute there. i want to start with a 30,000 foot view of what this committee is doing, they are saying or suggesting that donald trump and his associates committed possible crimes here. they keep throwing that around. what crimes exactly and how would those be proven? john, lots of broad bush painting about crimes, criminality. let s be specific. there are really three potential federal crimes at play here, first conspiracy to defraud the united states. prosecutors would have to show an agreement between two or more people to defraud the united states does not have to be financial. here is the big issue, the sticking point, did the person have knowledge or willful blindness, turn a blind eye to the truth. that is why we re seeing the january 6 committee make such an important point about all these people in donald trump s inner circle they knew donald trump lost and

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