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Meeting, we need to get the investigations? do you remember the person who told him, hey, dont say that, its wrong. no one. no one. >> there was a text stream there but, look, the president was skeptical of ukraine and president zelensky for a long time. >> nobody told sondland dont say this quid pro quo thing because its wrong. no one. >> he had an opinion. >> no, no, no. im saying none of the people around him, not his boss, not secretary of state pompeo, not mulvaney, not the president. nobod...

Stop. >> how do you know he vocalized that to pompeo? >> because he was in the loop. >> they dont remember that the same. >> how do we know what pompeo remembers? he wont testify. >> he said they brought everybody in the loop and everybody few what was going on and johnson didnt agree with that. >> johnson is meaningless. of all the people in this process, no one ever said -- >> hes part of the security council. he went over and spoke to the president. he had the ear of the president. >> i know....

Part b is they didnt say, well, so who told you this? and when did they tell you this? hes like, well, it was mulvaney or this one or i think pompeo knew. >> you sure he knew? im not sure. why not? that was part b. why doesnt he have access to his documents from the state department? he said none of it was classified. why arent the big shots in to clarify this once and for all so we can back up? >> im going to back up. i had my own committee. i was there for as month of the testimony as i could ...

It was no secret. >> everyone knew. it was no secret. according to the u.s. ambassador to the eu, million dollar donor to trumps inaugural, that means pence, pompeo, bolton, mulvaney, of course giuliani, of course of course the president himself the day ended with a different type of meaningful moment. the house intel committee chair reflected on the anti-corruption narrative from the president and his defendant. >> and when ambassador sondland testified today that he could put two and two toget...

Said any of these things to him. in fact what the president said, he quoted what the president said is, no, theres no quid pro quo. what he says is im surmising, this is what im just sort of gathering. did anything come from the president? >> no, it came from rudy giuliani. well, i mean -- >> and mulvaney. with the knowledge pompeo. >> he said exactly that. >> which he will walk back, as you know. the reality is im just trying to play out where i think the public is, where i think republicans ar...