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That. >> well, and cohen has already admitted, hes already made admissions against interest that he did this on his own. >> right. >> he did this to protect the president. he did this without the presidents knowledge so, again, im not sure -- i dont think youre on the "new york times" washington bureau stormy desk but didnt you remember that is the case? cohens already admitted this. >> well, he has but it is different to hear the president say it. the question, of course, is, its not under oath...