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Transcripts For CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240706

muster the vote to make their leader, kevin mccarthy the speaker. instead, and a test of his capacity for humiliation, he sat there smiling at times as well surpassed three times. the results were red. the honorable hakeem jeffries of the state of new york has received 212. the honorable kevin mccarthy the honorable kevin mccarthy from the state of california has received 203. no persons having received a majority of the whole number of votes cast by surname, a speaker has not been elected. no person having received the majority of the whole number of votes cast by surname. a speaker has not been elected. a speaker has not been elected. after the third rejection, republican moved to adjourn until noon tomorrow. this could all begin again. in 1923, it took nine ballots to choose a speaker. the record is 133 over two months in 1856. known expects it to go that long this time. but it was still historic and unprecedented in the modern era. it is also a repudiation of mccarthy

Transcripts For CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240706

that third ballot, where he failed to get the votes. it s been back to the drawing board for ken mccarthy and his allies. we have seen supporters going into his office. we are told he has been working the phones. he still hoping to negotiate and not planning to drop out. but meanwhile, i spoke to a gop lawmaker. this is some breaking news here. this lawmaker texted me and said this is someone who supported mccarthy. they said they have just gotten a phone call from one of the never kevin republicans, who is trying to grow their opposition and is trying to get that number to flip. essentially what you have here is kevin mccarthy and his office in the capital, trying to get to 218. and you have this opposition digging in and trying to work directly against him. look, this is one of the potential drawbacks of doing the motion to adjourn. there is a lot of concern initially about whether, if they were to send members home, about whether the opposition would have time to grow, whe

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 06:03:00

that strategy back fired. and some of the critics walking or that meeting said exactly. that they are really more entrenched in their because mccarthy really took his critics to task in that meeting. there were people cheering him on and they wanted to see him going after these critics because mccarthy has given them every concession. and yet, they have still not given anything in return. there is a lot of frustration that built up at that point. but it did not do mccarthy any favors. it is unclear what a conference meeting would do for mccarthy. i think that is part of the calculation here. and deciding whether or not you have these big meetings those are not where negotiations will happen. those are venting sessions. if there will be progress, it will be in private one-on-one phone calls. appreciate it. long day for you. thank you. joining us, now abby philip joe walsh mark sanford and howard, even former vermont governor abby, let me start with you, do you think there is

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 06:00:00

a large number of pizzas have been seen going to kevin mccarthy s office. easing the hunger perhaps, but only added to the hartman as he tries to do now what he could not do leading up to three humiliating rejections on the house floor in his quest to become speaker. he is trying again to twist some potentially twist-able republican arms. when the house comes back in session tomorrow. just a short time ago, cnn s manu raju reports there would be a republican conference meeting tomorrow morning. that however, we understand has now changed. i want to go now to cnn s melanie zanona at the capitol but new reporting on that. and mccarthy s frame of mind as well. melanie, what have you learned? things have not moved in kyiv mccarthy s direction since

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 06:08:00

you bring up, he has no core, which is what congressman walsh was saying, but even the people who he debased himself to, who he sort of humiliated himself to in order to get something, they even don t like him because he has no core. matt gaetz said he had kind of sell shares in himself. it is kind of a lesson and leadership. it is. the big difference between mccarthy and nancy pelosi. she had a core. if you cross, or you would know exactly what that court would do. you need to have that asked beaker. i don t think mccarthy has the backbone to do the job, even if he should get it and i don t think he will. before there is an nbc report saying that former president trump would not say if he is standing by his endorsement of mccarthy. i don t know if anyone should be surprised by that. but certainly most of, all can mccarthy. i don t think anybody is really surprised. this has been one of those interesting things. when i talk to republicans about this, trump is privately

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