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Will be the attorney for the white house. and all of that could change. and the question is whether or not once it gets to the senate, will the white house counsel call witnesses or want joe biden or hunter biden or will he call for the whistle-blower for example. that is all sort of up in the air and what youre hearing from officials and weve talked to our sources over here the athe white house and advisers who talked to the president from time to time, there is a debate going on inside of the ...

We dont want to broaden this. we want to keep it digestible for the american people and now for the senate trial we have a former ukrainian diplomat who has been contacted by the senate staff and that he has agreed to give an interview. now the scope of what hes agreed to speak about is 2016. and he is someone who has promoted the debunked theory that it was ukraine and not russia behind meddling in the 2016 election. so this is really new tangible evidence with regard to where that senate trial...

And if they do, at some point, put them in a public space and maybe put them in front of the senate, are these people actually unimpeachable witnesses? im not sure that they will be. that is one of the big problems going forward on the republican side, is that some of the conspiracy theories are rabbit holes and they are very difficult to defend once they are pressed on both sides, not just by republican questioners but by democrats as well. >> let me get dana to weigh in as well. dana, there ar...

In the house. wolf, expect that to be the message from the white house here on forward until this process gets to the senate whereas you were saying a few moments ago, they see that as a much more favorable setting because the senate is controlled by the republicans and the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell will have a greater control over the process than they obviously have at this point over in the house. but getting back to the letter. it is just would paragraphs. weve seen much lengthy...

>> mark, we know that weve reported that giuliani is already under some sort of federal investigation. do you think hes making matters worse for himself by now returning to ukraine? >> i mean it is hard to imagine it is making things better for himself by returning to ukraine. especially since as we believe what is central to this doj investigation into his businesses is some of this work and involvement with some of the people who hes now engaged with now. so i cant imagine it helps matters. at...

To them where they could do whatever they want to do. and justice roberts might be able to stop some of the shenanigans theyll try to pull there but im sure mitch mcconnell will work with them. the president is guilty. le not be found guilty by the senate but he is guilty of committing impeachable offenses, obstruction of congress, obstruction of justice and abuse of power. it is clear as the nose on his face. it is clear as the gray hair underneath the orange powdered hair he has on his head. >...