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With north korea than the united states on this, but he said that sanctions must be lifted against north korea until denuclearization can happen, one. and he also warned against, quote, sudden moves in these negotiations. jung, what do you think russia is trying to do here? >> russias been side lined in most of this process and the russians, like the chinese, want denuclearization, but the russians and then chinese do agree that there has to be some sort of phased approach that north korea has t...

Legitimate law enforcement investigation? >> its just going to have to -- the tbi or whoever is responsible for this investigation, whether it be a senate committee or the fbi -- and thats whats confusing now. nobody knows whos on first base. this is an ab ott and costello thing. theyve got to start peeling the on onlayer by layer. -- onion layer by layer. its most confusing. eric: and you raised an interesting issue that we havent heard about a lot, a criminal issue. youve got a lot of, apparen...