computer security conference. retired general michael hayden, the former cia chief, warning the conference that the government secrets pouring through wikileaks could sabotage intelligence sharing. and he also warned that could have very dangerous consequences in the post-9/11 world. chris is a hacking expert, he joins us now live. chris, first of all, you know, we think of the government as having extremely strong hacker protections, leak protections and that, and so on. it was the defense department, after all, that invented the internet. what happened here? well, i m not actually sure what occurred, how these leaks occurred. i think there was a brief news story ranking that one individual with the leaks, you know, but the information being out there really has both positive and negative effects, in by opinion. jon: you re a military veteran,