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Closed doors and theyre actually saying, we dont want it to leak out. we dont want the press to see it. we dont want our own members to see it. this is how theyre running things there. no regular order. the tax reform bill should be open and a six-month process, at least if its done right. >> and heidi can probably speak to this too. but that was the lesson that everyone seemed to have taken from the clinton years, right? which is health care was done behind closed doors. >> right. >> it was top...