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The difference is that -- how is this different than asking for phone records? or asking for anything else that could have been relevant? there are a million scenarios you can go through that, i think it, would point to the idea -- if it picked up anything, he pled not guilty, if its picked up anything that could incriminate him, that is information that the jury really should have, no? >> absolutely. if we are talking about this guy, and assuming that he is guilty for one moment, then screw him...