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Squeak out that election beating richard nixon and there was the so-called chicago cemetery vote, meaning people coming out for kennedy that had already been dead, and so people will point to if illinois didnt go kennedy perhaps that election would have been different. and in recent times we all know the problems that happened in 2000 in florida with dangling chads -- >> but that wasnt rigging. that was a mechanical problem. >> exactly. thats the point. i mean most of this is about mechanical pr...

But theyre happy to put together the stories of bundlers, these are people so people know who obama and all federal candidates used to help them raise money. he discloses them and since their names are out and what theyve done, its helped put together stories of some negative stories about their ties with federal government. romney stays immune because he wont disclose. but thats another issue. >> im glad you brought that up. we will pick that up coming up. first, we are also going to look at wh...